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Lysa Member
Joined: 2008/10/25 Posts: 3699 East TN for now!
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2017/5/25 16:55 | Profile |
ThyKingCome Member
Joined: 2011/4/19 Posts: 169 Southern CA
| Re: | | Thank you for sharing your heart and thoughts on this brother. I really do appreciate your love for the Lord Jesus and your unoffendedness towards His cross!
With His Love, _________________ Brother Kevin
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2017/5/25 17:18 | Profile |
| Re: Kevin | | Brother likewise I appreciate your heart love for Jesus. My concerns about the pre-trib rapture we're not directed toward saints such as you. You seem to have have an idea of what's going to happen. And seek the warn those in love.
Irrregardless of the timing of the rapture. We do agree He is coming soon. And we must be prepared to meet Him. As such may we be occupied with the concerns of His kingdom. And that ultimately is the salvation of souls.
Your brother in Christ.
Blaine
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2017/5/25 19:33 | |
Lysa Member
Joined: 2008/10/25 Posts: 3699 East TN for now!
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by deltadom Concern for Israel when the Jews are going to go through a worse holocaust than the holocaust during the time of tribulation when the church will not be there to help them.
Brother,
Over the last few years, I've asked my pre-trib friends why the tree that we are grafted into would be left behind and the answers are unanimously that they killed Jesus and rejected Him.This has bothered me so that I've called that belief anti-Semitic... but Christians don't like that word.
I have a question, can one really love the Jewish people and believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church? My personal belief is no but what do you think, Dom? _________________ Lisa
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2017/5/26 7:08 | Profile |
drifter Member
Joined: 2005/6/6 Posts: 1025 Campbell River, B.C.
| Re: | | "And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." Romans 11:23-27
Lisa said: "Over the last few years, I've asked my pre-trib friends why the tree that we are grafted into would be left behind and the answers are unanimously that they killed Jesus and rejected Him."
I am pre trib and I love the Jewish people. My pastor is pre trib and he loves the Jewish people. He just came back from a conference in Israel, as a matter of fact. _________________ Nigel Holland
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2017/5/26 11:30 | Profile |
Lysa Member
Joined: 2008/10/25 Posts: 3699 East TN for now!
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by drifter I am pre trib and I love the Jewish people. My pastor is pre trib and he loves the Jewish people. He just came back from a conference in Israel, as a matter of fact.
Drifter,
What is your belief about why Israel shall be left behind?
_________________ Lisa
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2017/5/26 14:13 | Profile |
staff Member
Joined: 2007/2/8 Posts: 2227
| Re: | | Hi ThyKingdomCome, I couldnt agree more with everything that you have said as I have debated on numerous of these threads. 1.Mis-characterization of the rapture doctrine 2.I have never seen the rapture as an excuse that we will not suffer persecution 3.We are all brethren and this needs to be kept into account.
I just think its being intellectually dishonest to link the pre trib rapture to believing in no persecution and its being done over and over and over. We only see in part looking through a dimly lit glass, yours staff
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2017/5/26 22:11 | Profile |
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Joined: 2007/2/8 Posts: 2227
| Re: | | Hi Lysa, You can certainly love the Jewish people and believe in the pre trib rapture,no problem non at all, Yours staff |
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2017/5/26 22:13 | Profile |
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Joined: 2007/2/8 Posts: 2227
| Re: | | Hi, I would say in my opinion that SI members or alot of them have an unhealthy almost morbid obsession with persecution. Go out to Syria or Eygpt or China,why wait for it to come to the west if its that important,yours staff |
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2017/5/26 22:16 | Profile |
| Re: | | __^I would say in my opinion that SI members or alot of them have an unhealthy almost morbid obsession with persecution. Go out to Syria or Eygpt or China,why wait for it to come to the west if its that important,yours staff___
So are you going to send an email to Paul Washer suggesting he do this? After all it was he who gave a prophetic word of persecution coming upon Anerica.
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2017/5/27 6:19 | |