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 TRYING HARDER IS NOT THE ANSWER by Jim Cymbala

Many of us want more of God but not to the point of being ridiculed. Our Western minds think, “I will serve the Lord, but I will remain in control.” But that is not how the Church began. The Church began with Spirit-controlled Christians who yielded themselves to God. That’s radical, yes, but that’s the way the Lord did it.

Some might say, “Yeah, but we’ve improved upon that New Testament style of Christianity.” If so, I want to see the spiritual fruit our improvements have produced. People may have mocked those first, “unsophisticated” Christians, but thousands got saved in the first four chapters of Acts. The Word of God was treasured. The churches were filled with sacrificial love. A holy excitement pervaded the atmosphere. Have we really improved upon that?

In Acts 2, while the disciples gathered in one place, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in languages they didn’t know. I don’t want to debate speaking in tongues, but I want to point out that when the Spirit came upon them, they immediately began to do something they could not do naturally. “When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: ‘Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?’” (Acts 2:6-8).

The disciples were speaking in actual languages they did not know. They were doing something that could have no other explanation than that God was the source. An undeniable expression of Spirit-controlled living is that we will be lifted above the limitations of mere natural talents and abilities.

The irony of Spirit-filled living is that we have to give up power in order to gain a greater power. How many times have you had trouble doing something, so you just tried harder? Have you ever tried harder to have the self-discipline to read your Bible more or pray longer? To love an unlovely person? To be bold when you felt afraid? How did that work out for you?


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Where we can be rowing our boats tied to the pier. Jim Cymbala speaks to the same problem. I do believe there is a balance of our own working out our salvation with fear and trembling for it is "God who works in us" but notice it is God in and through us, he does not work independent of us in our own lives usually.

Self-discipline is a fruit of the spirit, it is also something we must put effort towards.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27 New International Version (NIV)

24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. 25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. 26 Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. 27 No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

I believe in the end cymbala is trying to encourage us to leave the extreme of no prayer, no relying on God, no asking God to be involved, no allowing God to work in us. Christianity apart from God is impossible and not just a hard task.


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 Re: TRYING HARDER IS NOT THE ANSWER by Jim Cymbala

Thanks for this. What is this from?


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Its the daily David Wilkerson devotions. https://worldchallenge.org/devotions

They sometimes include other speakers such as Gary W., Jim Cymbala, Carter Conlon, etc


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Thank you!


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Read text of the Royer message and it was a helpful one.


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RE : ///Self-discipline is a fruit of the spirit, it is also something we must put effort towards.///

"Christianity is not a self-effort religion but rather one of power — the ability and might of the Spirit. "For it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose" (Phil. 2:13). The Spirit is the only one who can produce self-discipline, love, and boldness. But to do so, he has to control us daily. We can't rest on a religious experience we had years or even months ago." - Cymbala



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I am confused by brother Gregs, comments concerning the messages ?

But both the Royer message (text) and the Cymbala message where very good.

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I believe in the end cymbala is trying to encourage us to leave the extreme of no prayer, no relying on God, no asking God to be involved, no allowing God to work in us. Christianity apart from God is impossible and not just a hard task.



Yes there need to be a perfect balance between "I can do nothing on my own" and "I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength". Resting in our own strength is also wrong and totally siting inactive is also wrong. But most of the time, we who hear so much of God's word, end up dry and powerless because we are trying things of our own.


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