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 The coming storm.

I would council Christians all over the land to look into the eyes of the protestors. One day we shall fall into their hands.A desensitized generation angry and amoral. The winds are being restrained and we should take advantage of that, but it is only for a time. One day the winds shall be released and the pent up hatred of the amoral, the elite, the media and the religious will be loosed.......bro Frank

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Yes Brother, so true. My heart breaks for them because of the deception they have bought into. If only to share the love of Christ with them, the uncompromised gospel, in hopes many will repent and put their faith in Jesus. We must work while it's still day, the night quickly approaches.

 2016/11/12 21:12
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The winds are being restrained and we should take advantage of that, but it is only for a time.



This might be very well our time of preparation dear brother and period of grace for the West.


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Hi Frank

Amen to that not long before the whole world will see our savior in all his glory. When i walk around in the flesh i see hints of the world and whats to come which is easy to predict with out the holy spirit but when i walk in the spirit the warfare is sooo in tense. how subtly Satan has deceived the nations in thinking evil is Good and Good is evil. I think the most challenging part is the teachings in many new churches and the lack of insight into how to study the bible correctly like our fathers of the faith did.

The message that is now on my heart that i am spreading is know the Lord as intimately as you can because once you know the truth the counterfeit is easy to spot no matter how good the copy is. We no longer can be pew sitters with the pastors feeding us milk for the rest of our lives, we must learn to eat the meat of the word as we will enter a time were fellowship with others will be very difficult, we must keep our lamps full at all times and encourage one another to stand and then stand thereof.

Sorry went on a bit but its what came to mind reading your post.


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Hi SI,
I didnt see this "restraining of the winds" predicted or prophesied anywhere on SI over the last few years all I heard was "Persecution Watch".Could it be that you were wrong?
Maybe God is more graceful than we think?How long will that grace period last?We didnt seem to need that grace period for prepartion over the last few years why do we need it now?
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Maybe God is more graceful than we think?How long will that grace period last?



Good questions brother. I do believe we should not be like Jonah spurning God's kindness to give the American Church another period of grace. But it is not clear if that will actually happen still.

I wrote this in 2012 and believe the Lord had me to share this with the saints then to have them prepare:

The Coming Great Persecution - Greg Gordon
http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=44957&forum=34


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Hi Greg,
I will look at that link,I dont remember reading it.I agree its totally unclear whether we will have a period of grace still.I do think however that having a Christian VP and an anti abortion President can only be good.My only concern is that these protests could become the "fires" David Wilkerson talked about.Lets pray not ,
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Hi Greg,
Ive read that and understand it clearly and yet cant agree with it.
Their are good points to it dont get me wrong and good analogies.
The problem lies with fact that you link persecution to end times.If you wrote what you wrote and not link it to end times then I would say this guy is saying or prophesying that persecution is around the corner and we are not prepared.I can accept that no problem.I would then test it and see is it true like we should.I would then heed the warning or not.
Now to the problem I see with linking it to the end times.
Your assumption is based on a Post Tribulation Rapture and if you are wrong then your whole idea of what persecution looks like is also wrong.Your basing it also on the assumption that you can loose your salvation,if you are wrong then your preaching about persecution will condemn and take away from grace.You may be right and it is a post trib but you may be wrong then you've caused problems.
We have to always make a distinction whether we go through the tribulation or not between "persecution" and the exact period of time called "The Great Tribulation".Almost all posters on persecution never make this distinction and this is a clear and huge difficulty no matter what your end time view is.Here is the difficulty you have:it is that you then cannot accept "a period of grace where their is no persecution" because(if your following me) you believe we are in the end times .In your end time view their are no periods of grace and if periods of grace happen then you have to accept that we are not in the end times.I'l say it again to be clear if we get a period of grace then we are not in the end times yet according to your view.
Thats why I said has anyone on SI predicted or prophesied a period of grace which clearly no one has .
I am saying this from a point of view which accepts that their are times of persecution and martyrdom on the Earth and in our lives.Im saying this from a point of view which agrees that the majority of the "crazy stuff" comes from the pre tribulation believing side.
Its quite difficult to articulate what im saying but il put it another way if their is a period of grace we will see two things happening
1:Posters on SI will have to deny clear good things that are occuring like a Vice President thats Chrisitian or an anti abortion President,clear good things
2:They will have to say that this is not a period of grace but a deception clearly say good things are a deception
I'l leave you with this thought and Scripture below.Their will be times that I/you/us will be persecuted and maybe like Paul martyred but please cant I have my two years....
Paul Preaches at Rome
Paul stayed there two full years in his own rented house, welcoming all who came to visit him.Boldly and freely he proclaimed the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ.…
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Hi Staff

With all due respect, your view is boxed in on every side by theology of men. Let me just throw out some possibilities that would undermine your assertions. Does not have to be post trib it could be mid trib it just cannot be pre-trib as scripture does in no way support pre-trib. It is a new teaching of men (1820s and on)

There is the beginning of sorrows, birth pangs that come prior to the seven years of the great tribulation. Outer bands of the storm if you like. In the parable of the foolish virgins that speaks of Christ coming back for His bride, then half of the virgins were not prepared and therefore failed in the day for lack of oil.

That's all I am prepared to say in pointing out the holes in your argument. I am not now going to enter into a theological discussion with you as we have, on this forum, done that countless times on this subject. Enough to say that there are glaring holes in what you put forward and at the very least should give you pause for thought. God bless you Staff, if you cannot accept that there can be periods of grace, moments of relative peace and silence in the midst of the three late stages of pregnancy ( latent, active and transition) then you must not have any children :)

Excuse my link to this article Greg, it may help Staff

https://acalltotheremnant.com/2011/07/27/birth-pangs-the-beginning-of-sorrows/

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Hi Frank,

Given that you brought up the parable of the virgins, I'd like to hear your take on it.

1. What does the oil represent? How do we prepare?

2. Isn't it all about resting in the finished work of Jesus? So what is there left to strive for?

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