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deltadom
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Hemel Hempstead

 Apathy in World and in the Church to sin & life & Jesus

it is amazing when you are witnessing, how many people walk by and do not care about the Gospel, Do not care about Jesus.
Then you have work recently at work we are short staffed and I have had to shutdown the cafe I run, my other staff members say it does not make a difference
Bengazi when 4 soldiers were killed Hilary Clintons famous line is that it does not make a difference.
Life seems to be dispensable, If you are at work, then there is always someone else who can do your job better.
At almost any task someone can be better.
The thing is apathy is also part of work and the small things that you want to do you cannot, I so want to repent of the small sins in my life
We are so desensitied to violence,sex and other things through the mediums of things like Television and to the things of the world, we have all seen so many people die on tv, nothing is valuable any more.
As with the Atheist you are simply cosmic dust in a universe so a thousand years from now, noone will remember you.
We were witnessing at Notting Hill carnival there had been 4 stabbings the day before yet people are still apathetic to the gospel even thou we handed out 60 bibles
people died but they do not care about where they are going to eternally.
Apathy affects every area of our life, pray as we seem to live in a world living in darkness making there way to eternal hell apathatic and not caring about nothing but themselves, idolatry to its max, If a million people die or a billion during the tribulation time period will people care, If most distasters happen, no time of prayer and fasting is called for the nation like what happened in the past just virtue signalling with saying that they will pray or changing there twitter profile but the underlying sin of the nation remains intact until the next disaster next week where an app will instantly change there profile to represent the next disaster.

I wish God could give me the grace and love to be more sensitive about the small difference, as I have many small sins in my life that need to be repented of, but the weight of them is sometimes so great, I need the grace of the Lord in abundance, deliver me Lord from Apathy in my life Lord aswell & help me hate sin.

We need to be so sensitive to Gods voice, his quiet voice which seems to be silenced out by the noise of the world.
It makes a difference if you hand out a tract and someone goes to Heaven rather than Hell, that is an eternal difference. That is the difference that Jesus makes to peoples lives.
It makes a difference if you love Jesus and his bible & prayer. You are not just some random dispensable human.

Even in the aspect of things like Relationships it seems that the church does not place things in the sactity of marriage, if someone is not a good partner or they do not tick all your boxes just simply get a new younger model,

Malachi 2:16New American Standard Bible (NASB)

16 For [a]I hate [b]divorce,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “and [c]him who covers his garment with [d]wrong,” says the Lord of hosts. “So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously.”

It seems that everyone is dispensable or not valuable even I sometimes think that even in Gods eyes, I do not like the Purpose Driven Life by Warren as I think it is a lie.

The thing is if we know that God designed us and this universe, we will see design in everything and we will know that God created us for a reason, when studying history, science and other things.

There are many names in the Bible, the lesser names in the chronologies matter as these were people who followed God back then.

When I am talking to christians who are trying to synchronize with the world I ask them name a pop song or a celbrity from say the 1700s as people have forgotten these people but great christians in history have been remembered. I will be probably forgotten in the realms of time as a noone for Jesus, but I have hope of Eternal life with jesus which matter more to me.

Eternity is a long time, I can barely handle 1 sec in pain and I do not want fellow brethren to experience
Hell which is an eternity of pain without water, food and in torment.
I have been through an illness I thought I would never walk again when i was younger but God healed me. When we are going through pain there is a chance of escape but imagine being in pain for eternity & being tormented and not having any way of escape. Imagine being thirsty and it not being quenched for eternity, imagine being hungry and not being fed for eternity, or being burned without a way out.

Ezekiel 16:49
King James Bible
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

To me our society makes Sodom and Gomorrah looks angelic.
Sometimes I wish God would deliver me from me, I am desperate for Gods holy spirit as I am so dry and dead.




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Revelation 3:15-16 ESV / 53 helpful votes

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Proverbs 15:19 ESV / 48 helpful votes

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Romans 12:9-13 ESV / 45 helpful votes

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Ephesians 5:16 ESV / 40 helpful votes

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Mark 14:38-41 ESV / 38 helpful votes

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Ecclesiastes 9:10 ESV / 22 helpful votes

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1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 ESV / 17 helpful votes

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Psalm 51:16-17 ESV / 12 helpful votes

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Hebrews 6:4-6 ESV / 10 helpful votes

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Galatians 6:9 ESV / 10 helpful votes

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Ezekiel 16:49 ESV / 10 helpful votes

Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.
Proverbs 24:33-34 ESV / 10 helpful votes

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Haggai 1:7-9 ESV / 9 helpful votes

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Joshua 24:14-15 ESV / 9 helpful votes

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Isaiah 47:8-10 ESV / 8 helpful votes

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Proverbs 18:9 ESV / 8 helpful votes

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Proverbs 18:1 ESV / 8 helpful votes

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Hebrews 6:10-12 ESV / 7 helpful votes

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2 Thessalonians 3:6-8 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 ESV / 6 helpful votes

But test everything; hold fast what is good.
Proverbs 21:13 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.
Acts 10:1-23 ESV / 5 helpful votes

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Habakkuk 1:13 ESV / 4 helpful votes

You who are of purer eyes than to see evil and cannot look at wrong, why do you idly look at traitors and remain silent when the wicked swallows up the man more righteous than he?
Psalm 17:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes

They close their hearts to pity; with their mouths they speak arrogantly.
Proverbs 29:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes
The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother


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Dominic Shiells

 2016/9/28 12:41Profile
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 Re: Apathy in World and in the Church to sin & life & Jesus

The Lord bless you and your family. That the Lord quicken and refresh you from the burdens of the spirit, soul, and body. That you may feel His grace so deeeply, that He direct your path even us, as we grope in another confused and anxious moment, just walking in faith forward, knowing that the Lord is faithful to all who trust in Him.

 2016/9/28 21:11Profile
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Hemel Hempstead

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Thankyou for your response
I need prayer at the moment as I am a mess and I need Jesus
God bless
Dom


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Dom,

May God Almighty lift up your spirit as you lift up His Most High and Most Holy Name;


The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit. A broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.
Psalm 51:17

For this is what the high and exalted One says-- he who lives forever, whose name is holy: "I live in a high and holy place, but also with the one who is contrite and lowly in spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly and to revive the heart of the contrite. Psalm 57:15

Has not my hand made all these things, and so they came into being?" declares the LORD. "These are the ones I look on with favor: those who are humble and contrite in spirit, and who tremble at my word. Isaiah 66:2

The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. Psalm 34:18

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