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 seated with Him in heavenly places

We are actually part of a Christ who, having completed what was necessary for our salvation in His death and resurrection, is now "set down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens". We are with Him there, of course, "seated with Him in heavenly places".

Why, and what does that mean? The literal translation of the phrase "in heavenly places" is merely "in the heavenlies", or "in heavenly things"- just the one word in the Greek. We stress that, because we have to get away from the idea that in some mysterious manner we are whisked away in spirit to some distant heavenly realm which is not very realistic for us down here.

The truth is that "the heavenlies" are everywhere, only hidden from the natural eye, for God is everywhere. Therefore this reigning Christ ("far above all principalities and powers" of evil) of whom we are a part, is the enthroned Christ just where we are, in ourselves, in our circumstances, in our situations of need and apparent satanic mastery.

And why does He thus reign and we with Him? Because He is wholly occupied, in the person of His Spirit, in making His saving grace now known to the world by the members of His body-ourselves-and in "adding to the church daily such as should be saved", and "always causing us to triumph" in Himself, as He makes manifest by us "the savour of His knowledge in every place . . . in them that are saved and in them that perish". There is our praying ground. Not as suppliants in the sense of great distance from Him, of separation from Him, of uncertainty of His will and of a liberal answer; but prayer is seen to be a sharing of His mind on a situation, and our tongues being His mouthpiece in speaking the word of faith.

 2016/8/11 7:47

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 Re: seated with Him in heavenly places

Good Word brother Tuc!!

This passage in Eph is (for me) crucial in understanding our life of faith in that this is our place of rest and as stated in 1 Cor it is by His hand that we are here and none of our efforts-


 2016/8/11 9:06Profile


"We are actually part of a Christ"

How so? And how have we become Christ? In Christ does not make anyone Christ.

And please do not say that because the Holy Spirit indwells a genuine believer in Jesus makes him/her Christ. It does not.

Partaking in the divine nature does not equate becoming the divine nature either. Some subtle twisting of truth can be deadly to ones spiritual welfare.

 2016/8/11 9:24

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"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness, God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."—1 TIMOTHY 3:16.

This is Jesus, our Savior and Lord!

All of the truth spoken in the OP and following, are ours through the maintaining of a living faith relationship with Jesus Christ...abiding in the vine, as it were.
It is never us...but Christ in us. It is never the branch, but the sap flowing from the Vine as the branch remains in Him!

God bless, brothers!


 2016/8/11 9:47Profile

 He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit.

The Mystery of Union
By: Dan Stone

Paul's teaching to believers focused on a great mystery. To the church in Colossae he wrote of

"...the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints, to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory." (Colossians 1:25-27)

Christ in us. That is our only expectation of experiencing and expressing the glory of God. Elsewhere, Paul expressed the mystery in another way:

"But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him." (I Cor. 6:17)

Actually, the words with Him aren't even in the original Greek. The translators added them for clarification. So: "The one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit."

He or she, a spiritual being, who is joined to the Lord, is one spirit. There are two... they are one. You and He are one.

We are one spirit with God. We function as one. We are not absorbed into the Lord, however. There is an I and there is a He, but we are joined to Him and we function as one. It is a function of cooperation, like a union of gears that mesh together. Our union with God doesn't mean that we are so swallowed up in God that we lose our identity. But neither is there a separation. Rather, the two function as one for the purposes of the greater one, God.

He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit. That is a mystery. One plus one equals one. How can that be? The divine and the human are one.

Until we know and live out of our union with Christ, we will never fully manifest the life of God within us. Some of it will inevitably shine through now and then, despite us. But for the most part we will manifest our own merely human life.

Until we know union, we are constantly confronted by the illusion of separation. "God is up there; I am down here. How do I draw close to God? Give me a plan. Give me a program." Plenty of people are ready with the answers. "Read your Bible. Pray. Study. Witness. Tithe. Take communion. Here are the plans. Here are the programs."

But once you know your union with God, there's nothing left for you to do. Oh, you may still do some of the outer things. But you aren't doing them to get close to God. You and God are one. There is no more separation.

When you begin living out of your union with Jesus Christ, you move beyond Christ plus anything, no matter how good it might be. ...We live and move and have our being in God, who is our life. We are saved by His life. He is our life.

Christ lives out His life in us ­ funny old you, funny old me. We have all kinds of different shapes, forms, and fashions, all kinds of interests, all kinds of diversity, all kinds of uniqueness. Praise the Lord. We don't have to look like, act like, talk like, or be like anybody else again. We are free to be ourselves. People see us, but we know it's Jesus living through us.

 2016/8/11 10:23

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 tuc wrote: "..our tongues being His mouthpiece in speaking the word of faith."


“Then God SAID, ‘Let there be… and there was….’ Then God SAID, ‘Let the earth…… and it was so.” Then God SAID, “Let Us make man in our image…… And God created man in His own image……’” (Gen. 1)

“’Whatever word I SPEAK will be performed,’ declares the Lord GOD.” (Ezek. 12:28 NASB, caps mine)

“For He SPOKE, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast.” (Psalm 33:9 NASB, caps mine)

“But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: ‘DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, “WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?” (that is, to bring Christ down), or “WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).’ But what does it say? ‘THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART’—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, ‘WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.’ For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for ‘WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.’” (Rom. 10:6-13 NASB)
(“confess”, Strongs #3670, meaning “to speak the same, to agree”)

In every situation …… Jesus saves!

I heard this wonderful testimony just 2 days ago from the lady herself:

She had a stroke and was completely paralysed. She was absolutely devastated and totally depressed. All her thoughts, 24/7, were to die. Then one day she heard a message and light broke through. She started to recite 3 passages of scripture on WHO Jesus is and what He does, 24/7 (in her inner being as she could not speak). One of these scriptures is Psalms 23. She moved away from thoughts of hopelessness and despair to words of faith in who Jesus is and what He does. She literally SPOKE these 3 passages of scripture every moment through a long and difficult time. Today she is able to talk and walk again and is absolutely devoted to the Lord.

The Word we speak is the Word of Christ and we speak the Word in the faith that is resting on the faithfulness of God to perform His Word and waiting on God to do so.

For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
And do not return there without watering the earth
And making it bear and sprout,
And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater;
So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth;
It will not return to Me empty,
Without accomplishing what I desire,
And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.”
(Isa. 55:10-11 NASB)

Just my thoughts.


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