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 BREXIT: What happens next?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-06-22/if-britain-votes-leave-what-happens-next

 2016/6/25 12:59
Heydave
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 Re: BREXIT: What happens next?

OK I will give you my take on it as a Brit who strongly believes we should leave the EU.
But first let me say that as a Christian I see myself as part of the Kingdom of God and no earthly Kingdom, nation or union can or should sway me for either good or bad. I belong to and serve another King!

So to 'Brexit'. The majority of the people I know, be they Christians, work colleagues or family were of the 'Leave' position. Before the vote, although I believed that the majority of people in the UK were in favour of leaving, I did not believe the 'powers' who control this world would let the UK leave. It would upset their plans. You could see this right through the vote campaign. The amount of bare face lies and panic you could see coming out of the remain politicians was astounding. In particular coming from people such as PM Cameron, who previously (supposedly) had a Eurosceptic stance.

Anyway, the people voted (one of the biggest turnouts ever) and to the shock of the establishment the leave vote won. I was quite surprised as I was sure the 'ruling powers' had fixed it somehow to 'Remain'. I still think they did, as 52% for leave does not seem to reflect what I felt was a much larger percentage of the population in favor of leaving.

So where are we now? We have not left yet and we have not even given any official notice to the EU that we intend to leave. First PM Cameron says he will resign when they vote another PM in and any move on leaving would not start until then, which could take until October. Now even the prominent leave campaigners in the government such as Boris Johnson are backtracking and saying things like ' the leave vote was not all that overwhelming' and 'we will still have a close working relationship with the EU on everything but the European court of law'.

So I think despite the vote to leave, the 'powers' who rule this world will deceive us all and let us think we are leaving, when all the time they are working to make sure we stay firmly inside the system. Nothing will change!

Do not put your trust in governments or any politician, they are just puppets in this world system that want to control mankind for their own purposes and ultimately they serve the 'the god of this world'.
However we look forward to an eternal kingdom and serve the only sovereign, righteous King of kings.

"Since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear." (Heb 12:28).


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Dave

 2016/6/27 5:13Profile
dolfan
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Perfectly stated Dave. I was waiting to hear from you in this thread and topic. Perfectly said.


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Tim

 2016/6/27 7:44Profile









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Dave

I have had my suspicions that things are not as they seem. One thing that has stuck in my mind after hearing it years ago, was that there is a clause which gives the government the right to take savings including gold from the public, if a desperate situation arises financially in the UK. Don't forget that we are not citizens with citizen's rights, but are subjects.

Due to the financial turmoil, many are seeking a safe haven for their money and have been required for a number of years to give their names and addresses when buying or selling gold and silver.

It makes me wonder. But as you say, those if he who are in the kingdom have good and silver that no man can take from us and our kingdom is above.

 2016/6/27 7:57









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I agree with what you said, Dave.

Two parties in marriage might want a divorce, but until the papers are filed, no such divorce takes place. Much manipulation is now taking place in Britain and the power (votes) of the people look like they may be ignored. But, it is interesting to see worldwide, what people are in favor of. They are always in favor of personal freedom and less taxes (monetary confiscation).

I was hoping the EU would allow Britain to leave faster than Britain allowed the new American colonies to leave the British Empire. It seems the struggle is just beginning and may be put down by the global elite. That won't surprise me.

 2016/6/27 10:34









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The EU is socialism; a dying socialist basket case. Britain getting out of that should mean they have to do less money printing to support the dying socialism, so the pound should have strengthened on the news. But it went down. What?

The pound should have become stronger, another safe haven, thus, there should be less demand for gold, the only true safe haven, and thus, gold should have gone down.

I can't imagine that a bunch of EU socialists saw Britain leaving, got scared, and decided to jump to gold. They are socialists. Thus, they are not only clueless, but hate gold by definition.

Who would have woken up and decided to buy gold? Gold buyers remain far below 1% of the population in monetary terms.

So, what is going on?

I see this as more market manipulations.

I see this gold move up, and the pound down, as nothing more than a tantrum by the Rothschilds. It seems to me that they are trying to send a signal to punish Britain for their vote.

I see the vote as both a win for less government and more capitalism.

However, there is a dark side. Why was this needed to be voted on at all? That there had to be a vote shows a colossal failure. If there could be a vote to exit, then can't there be a vote on it again in 5 years to re join? The vote was close. This means that the Rothschild Globalist Bankers simply have more propaganda to do to re-vote and win their cause.
There should not ever have to have been a vote on this. In systems of rights, people don't get to vote away rights. Nobody gets to vote on whether or not to torture little Timmy to death, because that's morally wrong no matter what. Nobody should be able to vote to take away gun rights, because the right of self defense is a self evident truth given by God pre existing for hundreds of years before the formation of the united States, not guaranteed nor protected by the Constitution, but only recognized by the Second Amendment.

Seen in those terms, the Brexit vote victory is a colossal failure. In California and in many states, the people voted overwhelmingly against the gay agenda; saying no to gay marriage. But these votes were overturned by the courts anyway.

How long will it be until some unelected judge is bribed in some court case to overturn the Brexit vote? What if it's some far away judge in an international court? How's that going to play out?

But, I have more bad news from common sense every day insights that nobody mentions.

The United States is a secret member of the EU.

What is the point of the EU in the first place? It is this common currency thing, which basically means that the economically strong nations have to bail out the socialist weak nations by doing more money printing.

What happened in 2008? The Federal Reserve made hundreds of billions in loans to all the big banks across Europe who bought the failing home based backed bonds.

My point is that the money printing to support socialist spending has not stopped.

 2016/6/27 11:19
murrcolr
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Quote: The vote in Britain to leave Europe is highly significant and I believe has prophetic consequences.

There has been a stream of prophecy over the years saying that the UK (Great Britain) will leave the European Union.


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 2016/6/27 16:29Profile
dolfan
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:)

I don't believe Rothschilds and Bilderbergers throw tantrums. I also don't believe the Brexit was a surprise. In fact, I quite feel as if the entire matter is their own doing.


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Tim

 2016/6/27 16:32Profile









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When they throw "tantrums", many die.

 2016/6/27 18:38









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Fascinating post Julius. I don't see how the pound could have strengthened at the moment though, but l am not an economist! Surely there would be a widespread loss of confidence? It did recover a little. Gold is rising but not by leaps and bounds, but then, people are not buying low so probably is not going to soar.

I am seeing the possibility of a rejection of the vote.

 2016/6/28 6:41





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