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"Pilgrim and Sojourner." - 1 Peter 2:11


Brother Chuck,

Personal attacks and comments like this do nothing but bring shame to the Name of our Lord. No matter where we disagree may we have grace towards each other. I have personally asked on the forums for saints to not continue to post on divisive subjects over and over again. May this again be a request to not post on the debate about the state of Israel.

In the end we have to simply agree, God has preserved the jewish people for a specific end times purpose and salvation. Even though Israel is as corrupt and wicked as America (are not all nations the same! ?) Homosexuality is being promoted in these 2 nations more then perhaps all others combined.

In the end we need to see God's Biblical purpose of saving Gentiles and in the end the wonderful jewish people group will be saved and engrafted fully into the people of God.

Let us never forget that we are partaking of the promises of God given to the jewish people, we should have fear of God in that if they were plucked out like a branch we also need to be weary God does not do the same to us as gentiles (Romans 11).

The jewish people were the most stubborn and hard-hearted and that is why God used them as the type so that there could be hope for all other gentiles. Remember in the kingdom of God the first will be last and the last first. The one that is shown the most mercy will have the greatest place.

We should have love towards all people groups including the Jewish peoples.

SI Moderator - Greg Gordon

 2016/4/3 18:34Profile

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 Re: John 8:48

Who is demonizing who in this thread? Read the posts and you decide!

The Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?”

 2016/4/3 18:47Profile


Steven Anderson yells & screams & calls Ray Comfort a false prophet & a heretic & says he is lost himself & makes fun of him. He also is so KJV Only he can't handle simple truth. I have heard him preach & he is of another spirit. I have NO problem saying he is "questionable" at the very least. Not based on opinions, but facts & his own words

 2016/4/3 19:35



What about those promote him? Would they be of the same spirit as well?
(not meant to pigeon hole you)

 2016/4/3 19:46

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 Re: Joel Richardson

/RE : ///"When a Jew rules the World" by Joel Richardson. Even if you disagree with eschatological viewpoint & stay where you are (I will still treat you as a brother as does Joel), you will be enlightened on some church history I am certain 99.99%.....///

/'Last year alot of people where really worked up by predictions that Johnathan Cahn, Mark Biltz, etc. where making. one of the real indicators to me that these men where off, was whom they bumped shoulders with and whom promoted there countless books and videoes men like Jim Bakker etc.
/Joel Richardson is running in the same circle.'(END)

"Joel Richardson is running in the same circle."

How do we know? That was a somewhat veiled though not really veiled negative refrence to Joel Richardson given without any additional information as to why this may be true. Just a statment that was accompanied by nothing else and casts a negative light. I know Joel Richardson just a tiny bit because I had the opportunity to sit in once for about 30 oor 40 minutes on a video conference Joel had with a friend of mine. Joel came across as a very nice person with no sinister mtoives to peddle books and make money from them by all means. I also know someone, the same friend who was part of the video conference, who was with Joel this past week on Wednesday and talked with and sat with Joel and even gave a interview for a program Joel has. I ate lunch with this friend yersterday and he spoke well of Joel. To imply he is just a book peddler with money making etc. as his main motive is not the correct picture. I think we owe it to the body of Christ and to those we may openly make negative refreneces to to speak with them first perhaps and get their point of view and not what others are saying about them. I'm not trying to come across as a moral prima donna who is setting folks straight because I have it all together. But I just want to leave a notice that Joel has been painted in a negative light by that statment about him and he's just not that type of person and brother.

Thank you and blessings. May we open every compartment andf door in our heart to the love of Christ.

David Winter

 2016/4/4 9:11Profile

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 Re: Jesus and John on blood and stones

John 1:13
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

These three things, bloods, the will of the flesh, the will of man, bring to the sons of men power and rank, which are noble, but natural and human. For, indeed, it was on these three the Jews used to lean, being wont to boast either of their ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, Israel, Juda, Benjamin, Levi, Aaron, David, etc., or of both parents, but more especially of their fathers, and fancied that owing to these they could not but be pleasing to God; but John declares that these very things have no weight [with Him].

But of God - To the natural generation of men is opposed generation of God. And although the former, as the latter, is in reality single, yet the former being expressed in a threefold manner carries with it a threefold mode of viewing the latter. We are therefore taught, that they become Sons of God, who are born, not as the sons of men, such as themselves also were by original descent, after the manner of men, but of God. That is, not of bloods, but of the heavenly and supreme Father, from whom the whole of the blessed and holy family is named. Bengel

Not of blood - The Greek word is plural; not of "bloods" - that is, not of "man." Compare Matthew 27:4. The Jews prided themselves on being the descendants of Abraham, Matthew 3:9. They supposed that it was proof of the favor of God to be descended from such an illustrious ancestry. In this passage this notion is corrected. It is not because men are descended from an illustrious or pious parentage that they are entitled to the favor of God; or perhaps the meaning may be, not because there is a union of illustrious lines of ancestry or "bloods" in them. The law of Christ's kingdom is different from what the Jews supposed . Barnes

Matthew 3:9
And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say to you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham.

God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. To "raise up children" is an Hebrew way of speaking, and the same with or to "raise up seed", or a "name" to another, Genesis 38:8 and signifies to beget children for another, who are to be called by his name. Some by "the stones" understand the Gentiles, comparable to stones, both for the hardness of their hearts, and their idolatry in worshipping stocks and stones; of and among whom God was able to raise, and has raised up, a spiritual seed to Abraham; who are of the same faith with him, who walk in his steps, and whose father he is: but then it must be supposed, according to this sense, that there were some Gentiles present, since John calls them "these" stones, pointing to some persons or things, that were before him; wherefore I rather think that this phrase is to be taken literally, and that John pointed to some certain stones that were near him, within sight, and which lay upon the banks of Jordan, where he was baptizing; for what is it that the omnipotent God cannot do? He could as easily of stones make men, as make Adam out of the dust of the earth, and then make these men, in a spiritual sense, children of Abraham; that is, believers in Christ, and partakers of his "grace; for if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise", Galatians 3:29. So that God stood in no need of these persons, nor had they any reason to boast of their natural descent from Abraham; since this in spiritual matters, and in things relating to the Gospel dispensation, would stand them in no stead, or be of any advantage to them . Gill

 2016/4/4 9:47Profile

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 Hi Docs

RE: ///How do we know? That was a somewhat veiled though not really veiled negative refrence to Joel Richardson given without any additional information as to why this may be true.///

 2016/4/4 10:16Profile

 Re: Hi Docs

Brother, again I will say, be careful who you malign/slander & what you claim as false. You may find yourself slandering servants of the Lord. Mark Biltz never said most of what people said he said/claimed. Same with Jonathan Cahn & others. Just be careful. Easy with your own personal sword there Peter.

 2016/4/4 11:07

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