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 And what of Damascus?

Isaiah 17:1

The oracle concerning Damascus.
Behold Damascus is about to be removed from being a city
And will become a fallen ruin.


Bretheren is there yet to be a literal fulfillment of this Oracle or prophecy. Damascus is still standing. It is considered perhaps the oldest continual living city on the face of the earth.

 2015/11/25 6:03
brothagary
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 Re: And what of Damascus?

Yea it is blain ,,you can tell that it speaks of the great tribulation and the turning of country's to the lord,a miraculous revivle takes place after the fall of Damascus ......

 2015/11/26 0:43Profile
proudpapa
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 Re: And what of Damascus?

2 Kings 16:9
“And the king of Assyria hearkened unto him: for the king of Assyria went up against Damascus, and took it, and carried the people of it captive to Kir, and slew Rezin.”

 2015/11/26 1:19Profile









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Blane,

Isaiah - 8th century BC

2 Kings - 5th century BC

 2015/11/26 5:13









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Julius

Brother, respectfully, Damascus still continues as a city. Perhaps the oldest city with the same name on the face of the earth. I would respectfully suggest that this prophecy has yet to be fulfilled.

Events in Syria may very well lead up to the ultimate destruction of Damascus. I simply point out that I believe the Old Testament still has prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled. I speak of prophecies which refer to end time events which point to the return of Jesus Christ.

 2015/11/28 6:05









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Brethren can we really dismiss what is taking place in Syria today. Some have said that the soon coming of Jesus Christ will be determined by events that take place in Syria.

In just a few short years all of the major world powers have been drawn into Syria. Consider Russia is presently flying air strikes against ISIS and the Syrian rebels. Because of the recent terror attacks in France. Franci s now joining with Russia in a war against ISIS. Germany presently is providing reconnaissance to the US led coalition providing air strikes against ISIS. The US has been leading a multi nation coalition against ISIS for almost 18 months. Add to this that Iran is involved as an ally with Russia to prop up Assad. Even China is getting involved.

Thus we see the United States, Russia, Germany, China, and Iran involved in Syria. I cannot help but wonder if we're seeing the stage set for the Ezekiel 38-39 war.

Let us be careful that we do not become preterist and relegate these things to historical events that have already been fulfilled. To do so is denying the reality of current events that are giving a very realistic fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies. Particularly prophecies which point to the soon coming of Jesus Christ.

My thoughts from a rainy morning from the bear cave.

 2015/11/28 7:44









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Thus if we take a look at current events in Syria as they are now unfolding. The idea of the destruction of Damascus as prophesied in Isaiah has a very realistic expectation to be fulfilled.

Please understand I am not wishing for the destruction of Damascus. As I am about praying for preserving life. But I merely point this out that this is an Old Testament prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled. And it should not be lightly dismissed in view of recent events in Syria.

My thoughts and observations.

 2015/11/28 7:47
TMK
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Bear-

The Isaiah passage also says "about to be."

What does "about to be" mean to you?

To me it means right quick.


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 2015/11/28 11:45Profile









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It is "right quick", TMK, because it was taken away, then. KJV reading "is taken away from being a city" (not "about to be"), but your reasoning is still good as "about to be" means pretty quick, not 2500 years, later.

Isa 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus IS TAKEN AWAY from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

"is taken away" - present not future.
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Jer 49:23 Concerning Damascus. Hamath is confounded, and Arpad: for they have heard evil tidings: they are fainthearted; there is sorrow on the sea; it cannot be quiet.
Jer 49:24 Damascus is waxed feeble, and turneth herself to flee, and fear hath seized on her: anguish and sorrows have taken her, as a woman in travail.
Jer 49:25 HOW IS THE CITY OF PRAISE NOT LEFT, THE CITY OF MY JOY! (NOT LEFT, gone, destroyed)


I don't believe Isaiah 17 figures into current events in Syria (or Isaiah 7-8 and Amos 1). We all know that Isaiah and Amos were contemporary prophets. Both Isaiah and Amos foretold that Syria and Israel would be destroyed and fall to the same opponent (Assyria). II Kings 16 reveals that the prophecies are clearly fulfilled. This is also confirmed by historical records.

“In 732 BC, the kingdom of Damascus lost its independence and existence, its holdings carved up into Assyrian provinces. Israel, on the other hand, was allowed to survive, albeit reduced to a fraction of its former size and cut off from the sea”
Source: http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/saao/aebp/essentials/countries/israel/

A key point to the fulfillment of Isaiah 17 in Isaiah's time is the phrase "in that day" (17:4) Isaiah was saying that Damascus and Syria would fall in the same “day” that Israel would fall. The northern kingdom of Israel, fell in 722 B.C.

Revelation "watchers" today, say Turkey will invade Syria and destroy Damascus. Will Russia standby and watch? They are pretty annoyed regarding Turkey shooting down their bomber and this off the heels of losing their passenger plane coming back from Sharm el-Sheik. Many are saying Turkey is the modern day fulfillment of Magog from Ezekiel 38, but Magog is known by most Biblical scholars as Russia and Turkey is Togarmiah. So, I do not believe Turkey will be destroying Damascus.

 2015/11/28 12:48









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There are some prophecies in the Old Testament that can have double fulfillment. There is an immediate fulfillment. And then there is a fulfillment in the future.

Again in light of current events. I do not think that this prophecy can be easily disregarded. For one thing Damascus still continues. The prophecy implies at some point it will be destroyed. Who will destroy it remains to be seen?

The fact that the major world powers are involved in Syria would suggests that the stage is being set for the Ezekiel 38-39 war. That whatever hostilities may break out in Syria could result in the destruction of Damascus.

My thoughts.


 2015/11/28 14:01





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