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TMK
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JFW wrote: "What pricked up my ears was the speakers humility and lack of dogmatism which I appreciated as it lends some credibility for me"

Me too, which his why I really like Steve Gregg. His website has full audio commentary on the books of the Bible and numerous topical teachings.

He is very good at laying out various views of a topic or passage and letting the listener decide which is correct. Of course he does take some strong positions, but he always admits he may be wrong.


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Todd

 2015/8/27 8:11Profile
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I really wish you were right here. The truth however in both OT and NT points to the direct involvement of God in the whole earth as that which belongs to Him. As to Israel based OT promises applying to us today, I guess it really comes down to the faith and closeness to God a person has and whether or not we believe God can or will speak to us from His Word in the OT, or how alive we really think His written Word is and how relevant we see it in our world view. Just thinking out loud:) Blessing bro.


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D.Miller

 2015/8/27 19:41Profile
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Sodom and Gomorrah was not destroyed untill the righteous where removed.

If a homosexuall mob comes to my house and insist on raping my guest, I do not have to offer the woman of my house as a sacrafice for them to satisfy there lust.
I would simply call my local Sheriffs department of whom I have known the local Sheriff since I was 14. And he would come with his deputys, (many of whom I went to school with) and they would arrest all those within the mob.
And than those homosexuall offenders would be taken to our local county court and brought before the local judge (whom my mom went to school with and whom is a christian) and the local judge would sentance those in the mob to many years in a state prison.

only 2 to 7% of our population identifies themselves as homosexual and in my area probably less than 1% do.

The homosexuall marriage did not come to the U.S. by way of majority vote, it came by a very small majority of appointed judges.

The next President of the US could very easly be someone like Carson whom is open and outspoken against homosexuall marriage. How come is that ? Because there is still a very large percentage of people in the US whom hold to a Christian value system at least when they vote.

"At least when they vote", if judgement is coming to the US in which it very well maybe. Will it be because of : 2 to 7% of our population and the descision of a few appointed judges or will it be because of things such as the pornography and infedility epidemic in this generation.

Why did America not face judgement with what they did to the Indians, or black slave trade, etc.


 2015/8/27 21:28Profile
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Why did America not face judgement with what they did to the Indians, or black slave trade, etc.


Hollywood glorifies the early times of this nation, but history covers it with blood , disease, pestilence, famine, and much more. Judgement at every turn and these days are no different, however, as time winds down now the "SPIN" will become increasingly harder to believe from the mainstream media and lukewarm half baked Christians in leadership.

I see the Word of God playing out at every turn Rev 6:4
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.


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 2015/8/27 22:04Profile
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Agreed PP.

There is a solid remnant of believers in the U.S. We are overwhelmed by a minority of radical sinners and a majority of decent folks who aren't believers.

Why would God punish the godly with the wicked? Per Romans 1 God giving over the wicked to their own desires is the judgment they get.

I just think God is more concerned with persons than nations. His own nation (Israel) did not follow Him despite His efforts and judgments. I really don't think He expects a Christian nation. But he expects Christians in the nation to follow hard after Him.


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 2015/8/27 22:10Profile
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RE: ///but history covers it with blood , disease, pestilence, famine, and much more. Judgement at every turn and these days are no different, ///

good point.

edit erase and add :

When I posted :"Why did America not face judgement with what they did to the Indians, or black slave trade, etc."
I felt a slight bit of wrestlessness and I had no I dea why, so instead of defending my question I am just going to leave it alone. and agree that dohzman made a good point.




 2015/8/27 22:20Profile
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Why would God punish the godly with the wicked?



This indeed is the million dollar question, since Jesus died and rose again Rev 17:6

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

I have often wondered why Christians die in natural disaster events but have read where some were miraculously spared while others were given grace to endure the same events and still yet others graduated and the Lord brought them home to be with Him in what the Apostle Paul speaks of as being "Better". In all things I believe the Lord gives us the "now" grace for which ever path He chooses for us ...the wicked will never know that grace, so for them it is judgement but for us it is "well done good and faithful servant enter into the joy.....that is our hope.

It is note worthy to look at the history of Sodom before Israel was a nation. How the Lord was with Abram in the battle of Kings to deliver them and how He later judged them sparing Lot/ Jesus Himself admonishing us to remember Lots wife and likened our day in the same manner as that day/ again before Israel was a people. I believe that the nations and their rulers are more in the view or on the scales of Almighty God than what is comfortable to consider in a society such as ours:/


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D.Miller

 2015/8/28 1:14Profile









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TMK, wrote,

"There is a solid remnant of believers in the U.S. We are overwhelmed by a minority of radical sinners and a majority of decent folks who aren't believers. "

Define decent folks.

Do you know what the key to keeping a lion as a pet is? Give it 50lbs of raw beef first thing every morning. If you do it will purr the rest of the day but the first day you don't you will quickly understand the difference between a lion and a dog.

The Church no longer sees the depths of mans fall or the height of Gods glory! We have nothing but the milky middle.

marcmc

 2015/8/28 18:27
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Decent folks = non Christians who act like Christians should act. I know many.


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Todd

 2015/8/28 20:03Profile









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Their behavior regardless of its appearance or virtue has Adams rebellion and wickedness as its source.

Marc mc

 2015/8/28 20:35





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