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 The spiritual level of tribulation believers

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"The Holy Spirit will revert back to do the "work as He did in the Old Testament."

"The Holy Spirit will not be gone from the world, but His unique ministries in, through and for the believer will be removed with the Church."

"...the unique Church economy ministries of indwelling, baptizing, sealing. gifting and filling of every believer will be removed with the Church. This is consistent with all that is revealed of the average Tribulation believer's level of spiritual insight, knowledge and maturity." (Hal Lindsey, "The Rapture", Bantam Books, p 138)

Well, gee Mr. Lindsey. I know you teach that tribulation believers will not have the Spirit dwelling within them even though they are washed clean by the blood of the Lamb (Rev 7:14). And you seem to suggest their level of knowledge and maturity will not be quite up to par. But Revelation 12:11 states,

"And they overcome him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto death."

That seems like a pretty spiritually mature group of believers to me. One question is why is it always asked why not believe now and get in on the pre-trib rapture and escape all the trials and persecutiona and martydom that will take place during the tribulation. Why isn't more attention paid to verses like Revelation 12:11. Those supposedly "left behind" seem to be making the most of difficult circumstances. If they are loving not their own lives even unto death then they will have reached perhaps the highest level of spiritual maturity surpassing even the level of today's church. Yet according to a large portion of the pre-trib view, they are supposed to do all this without the indwelling and inward enablement of the Spirit. Meanwhile, from my vantage, those in Rev 12:11 can already serve as a example to be emulated and most of us likely believe that already.


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