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 U.S. Pastor Facing "Hate Crimes Against Humanity" Charges for Opposing Gay Agenda

U.S. Pastor Facing "Hate Crimes Against Humanity" Charges for Opposing Gay Agenda

By Kirsten Andersen : Dec 12, 2014 : LifeSiteNews

Pastor Scott Lively has expressed support in Uganda and other countries for laws banning pro-homosexual propaganda, similar to the law Russia recently enacted, however he strongly opposed the harsh penalties in the Ugandan bill.

(Washington, DC)—The First Circuit Court of Appeals has allowed a lawsuit to proceed against U.S. pastor Scott Lively accusing him of "crimes against humanity" for his overseas activism opposing the homosexual agenda.


The plaintiffs are seeking unspecified damages "to be determined at trial" and a declaration that he violated "the laws of nations" by speaking against homosexual "rights."

Pastor Scott Lively, who recently completed an unsuccessful bid for governor of Massachusetts, was sued in 2012 by the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of "Sexual Minorities Uganda." The Ugandan homosexual activist group claims Lively's speeches and sermons warning Ugandan leaders not to follow the liberal West's lead on homosexuality incited murders, violence, and persecution of homosexuals in the African nation.

The lawsuit is seeking redress under the Alien Tort Statute—a controversial law that has occasionally allowed foreign nationals to sue U.S. citizens in American courts for crimes committed overseas, regardless of whether the law supposedly broken was a U.S. law, or a law in the country where the alleged crime occurred.

Lively asked Judge Michael Ponsor to throw the case out, arguing that his right to free speech is protected under the U.S. Constitution, and nothing he did or said violated Ugandan law. But Ponsor refused in a vitriolic 79-page ruling on August 14, 2013 that called Lively's opposition to homosexual behavior "ludicrous." The judge blamed Lively's speeches for everything from isolated incidences of police brutality against homosexuals in Uganda to the introduction of a controversial bill that would have made homosexual behavior punishable by death. The penalty was later amended to life in prison, but the bill failed anyway.

Lively has expressed support in Uganda and other countries for laws banning pro-homosexual propaganda, similar to the law Russia recently enacted, however he strongly opposed the harsh penalties in the Ugandan bill. The lawsuit claims that by sharing his views with influential people in Uganda, Lively somehow set off a chain reaction of violence and persecution against homosexuals that continues to this day.

Lively appealed to the First Circuit Court, asking them to overrule Ponsor's judgment and dismiss the case. He again pointed out that he had not broken any U.S. or Ugandan laws, and said he could not be held responsible for the actions of an entire foreign society, nor its individual members, just because he made some speeches in 2009.

But last week, a 3-judge panel on the First Circuit denied Lively's request. While they conceded that "it is debatable whether [Judge Ponsor] has properly parsed the petitioner's protected speech from any unprotected speech or conduct," they said that Lively's "right to extraordinary relief is not clear and indisputable."

In 2002 and 2009, Lively was invited to speak before a group of Ugandan pastors who were concerned about the rise of pornography and homosexuality in their culture. He shared with them the history of how American culture "had been brought low" by homosexual activists in the U.S., and warned them that unless they took action to prevent it from happening in their country, they could expect similar results. He reportedly drew connections between homosexuality and child sexual abuse, noting that historically, most homosexual behavior has started with pederasty—men having sex with adolescent boys—and encouraged Ugandans to protect their children from indoctrination or recruitment by gays and lesbians.

Brian Camenker of MassResistance, who works closely with Lively on pro-family issues in Massachusetts, told LifeSiteNews by email that he found the First Circuit's decision "outrageous."

"First of all, the charges are ridiculous on their face, and in fact false," said Camenker. "Second, a U.S. Supreme Court Decision last summer clearly nullified any use of the Alien Tort Act by the plaintiffs, which is the mainstay of their case." Camenker was referring to Kiobel v. Royal Dutch Petroleum, in which the Supreme Court ruled that the Alien Tort Statute does not apply outside the United States.

Camenker added that Judge Posner "should have recused himself because of his background—going back years—of supporting the homosexual movement and its goals." He provided a link to an investigatory piece he wrote, which says in part: "Ponsor is openly liberal and a protégé of pro-homosexual Judge Joseph Tauro, who recently ruled to strike down DOMA in the federal court. But that's just his more visible profile."



Source: www.breakingchristiannews.com/


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Mike

 2014/12/19 22:05Profile
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 Re: U.S. Pastor Facing "Hate Crimes Against Humanity" Charges for Opposing

The plaintiffs are as Jerry Clower used to say, "they have been educated beyond their intelligence."

Someone else has said if you educate an ungodly person you will end up with a monster, or something like that. Modern day Goliaths... unless God is directing the stones you will end up getting your head cut off instead of you cutting off his head.

I have little patience, sometimes.


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 2014/12/19 22:40Profile
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 Re: U.S. Pastor Facing "Hate Crimes Against Humanity" Charges for Opposing

Heavenly Father, strengthen this man to stay on course for you. Shut up his and Your enemies and bring them to shame. Protect his life and soul in this fierce battle. Let him receive comfort from others who love you.

 2014/12/20 16:38Profile





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