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 Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely

(there IS historical precedent for such actions, what gives one pause for thought, is that no cases have been REPORTED in Conn. I understand to have "all hands on deck", and being prepped up, but something doesn't ring right here. Cant put my finger on it though)

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Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely

"We warned a week ago of the various possibilities surrounding an Ebola outbreak in America, and today we get some degree of confirmation of a medical-based martial-law coming to the US. Governor Dan Malloy has declared a Public Health Emergency in Connecticut, authorizing the "isolation of any individual reasonably believed to have been exposed to the Ebola virus." Simply put, as we noted previously, the State of Public Health Emergency allows bureaucrats to detain and force-vaccinate people without due process - despite not one single case being found in CT. If there is a major Ebola pandemic in America, all of the liberties and the freedoms that you currently enjoy would be gone."

(what follows is the letter the Governor wrote)

"I hereby declare a public health emergency for the State, pursuant to the Connecticut General Statutes Section 19a-131a, for the duration of the epidemic. Specifically, in accordance with Connecticut General Statutes Section 19a-131b, I authorize the Commissioner of Public Health to Order the isolation or quarantine, under conditions prescribed by the Commissioner of Public Health, of any individual or group of individuals whom the Commissioner reasonably believes to have been exposed to, infected with, or otherwise at risk of passing the Ebola virus."

Which he defended as a precautionary and preparatory measure in the event that the state has either a confirmed infection or has confirmed that someone at risk of developing the infection is residing in the state.






“We are taking this action today to ensure that we are prepared, in advance, to deal with any identified cases in which someone has been exposed to the virus or, worst case, infected,” said Governor Malloy. “Our state’s hospitals have been preparing for it, and public health officials from the state are working around the clock to monitor the situation. Right now, we have no reason to think that anyone in the state is infected or at risk of infection. But it is essential to be prepared and we need to have the authorities in place that will allow us to move quickly to protect public health, if and when that becomes necessary. Signing this order will allow us to do that.”

(letter ends)
"Translated... as we previously noted:

If there is a major Ebola pandemic in America, all of the liberties and the freedoms that you currently enjoy would be gone. If government officials believe that you have the virus, federal law allows them to round you up and detain you "for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary." In addition, the CDC already has the authority to quarantine healthy Americans if they reasonably believe that they may become sick. During an outbreak, the government can force you to remain isolated in your own home, or the government may forcibly take you to a treatment facility, a tent city, a sports stadium, an old military base or a camp. You would not have any choice in the matter. And you would be forced to endure any medical procedure mandated by the government. That includes shots, vaccines and the drawing of blood. During such a scenario, you can scream about your "rights" all that you want, but it won't do any good.

In case you are tempted to think that I am making this up, I want you to read what federal law actually says. The following is 42 U.S.C. 264(d). I have added bold for emphasis..."


1) Regulations prescribed under this section may provide for the apprehension and examination of any individual reasonably believed to be infected with a communicable disease in a qualifying stage and (A) to be moving or about to move from a State to another State; or (B) to be a probable source of infection to individuals who, while infected with such disease in a qualifying stage, will be moving from a State to another State. Such regulations may provide that if upon examination any such individual is found to be infected, he may be detained for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary. For purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes, in addition to the several States, only the District of Columbia.



(2) For purposes of this subsection, the term “qualifying stage”, with respect to a communicable disease, means that such disease—



(A) is in a communicable stage; or



(B) is in a precommunicable stage, if the disease would be likely to cause a public health emergency if transmitted to other individuals.

In addition, as I discussed above, the CDC already has the authority to isolate people that are not sick to see if they do become sick. The following is what the CDC website says about this...






Quarantine is used to separate and restrict the movement of well persons who may have been exposed to a communicable disease to see if they become ill. These people may have been exposed to a disease and do not know it, or they may have the disease but do not show symptoms. Quarantine can also help limit the spread of communicable disease.

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And as Police State USA summarizes,






Governor Dannel Malloy has declared Connecticut to be in a state of public health emergency, enabling the indefinite suspension of certain civil rights. State bureaucrats have been granted the broad authority to forcibly detain suspected sick people without due process. The declaration came preemptively, as Connecticut has not yet seen a single case of the virus it purports to stop.



Rationalizing his actions, the governor said in a statement: “We need to have the authorities in place that will allow us to move quickly to protect public health, if and when that becomes necessary. Signing this order will allow us to do that.”



The recipient of most of the newly-imparted power is Jewel Mullen, Connecticut’s Commissioner of the Department of Public Health (DPH). By having this measure in place, Commissioner Mullen explained, “we don’t have to scramble in the event I need to take action.”



The actions that authorities might want to “scramble” to use is the forcible quarantine of citizens — without charges or trial.



Connecticut General Statutes Section 19a-131a spells out the powers that may be used during the state of public health emergency:



“[While] the emergency exists [the state] may do any of the following: (1) Order the commissioner to implement all or a portion of the public health emergency response plan developed pursuant to section 19a-131g; (2) authorize the commissioner to isolate or quarantine persons in accordance with section 19a-131b; (3) order the commissioner to vaccinate persons in accordance with section 19a-131e; or (4) apply for and receive federal assistance.”



As noted above, the Commissioner may issue an order of mass vaccination at his or her own discretion.



Section 19a-131d states that any individual who refuses to comply with any portion of the order may be punished with with fines and imprisonment for up to one (1) year.



Fending off a police state requires constant vigilance against efforts to desecrate civil liberties. As the current scenario has shown us, a climate of fear — fear of disease, terrorism, foreign threats, etc. — makes it all-too easy to suspend constitutional rights with minimal public resistance. Many people actually feel grateful to see the government absorbing greater powers; taken with the promises of keeping them safe.



The state of public health emergency will remain in effect indefinitely until lifted by the governor."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-10/public-health-emergency-declared-connecticut-over-ebola-civil-rights-suspended-indef





 2014/10/11 2:51
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 Re: Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspende

Scary stuff indeed-

The only thing is I am not sure how to otherwise deal with an outbreak of something as deadly as Ebola. If you didn't do anything, everybody would be dead or there'd be anarchy or both.

How else can such an outbreak be dealt with?


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 2014/10/11 7:02Profile
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 Re: Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspende

The Bible tells us of world-wide disease epidemics during the end times. But we as believers are not to fear these things. We must trust God for our protection and provision, regardless of what happens around us. I am concerned about the erosion of freedoms in the USA, but I am also a citizen of another, eternal kingdom for which I truly live and in which I have my life.


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 2014/10/11 9:14Profile
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 Re:

I agree Travis but how else (other than suspending some civil liberties) can an outbreak be dealt with. After all quarantining while obviously suspending someone's liberty is the only way to prevent spread of such a disease and this has been practiced for years. I remember reading in John Adams biography by McCullough that when his family was given a smallpox vaccine they were confined to their house for a few weeks while there was a risk of them being contagious.

In "the plague" by Camus a whole city was cut off during an outbreak of bubonic plague. I think that was based on a true story.


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 2014/10/11 19:00Profile
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 Re: Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspende

Brother HezWelling writes RE: ///I understand to have "all hands on deck", and being prepped up, but something doesn't ring right here. Cant put my finger on it though)///

RE: ///"Simply put, as we noted previously, the State of Public Health Emergency allows bureaucrats to detain and force-vaccinate people without due process"///

What we see in things such as this is a rapid increase in the ability for a Global Mandating of vaccines.
So what does not ring right about that ? answer :
1. Many of the vaccines that are on the market today are created unethical for the Christian to except
2. Vaccines such as the ebola vaccines could be ran through before adequate saftey and effectiveness have thoughly been tested.
(TMK mentioned the small pox vaccine, It was not the smallpox but instead the small pox vaccine that led to Jonathan Edwards death.
3. The most serious cause for concern, a global system is being Implemented over these type of issues that can quickly be transformed from forced vaccines to sometype of forced implants such as what many have predicted for well over the past half century.

 2014/10/11 20:00Profile
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 Re:

I agree with your sentiment brother TMK, and interestingly enough the same sort of policy (if not harsher) was commanded in Leviticus 13 regarding the treatment of leprosy (diseases) where the person that was ill and possibly contagious needed to be isolated and made sure not to allow infection of other people. Obviously, there were very practical reasons why God gave them this rule which makes perfect sense (in a modified form) for us today. The verse about submitting to authorities really comes to mind here as well.

It is the very overgeneralized fear and mistrust of the government that exacerbated the whole ebola situation in Africa. The people were reacting in fear and paranoia instead of reason and so did the very opposite of whatever government and aid workers were telling them to do and would not only attack and kill the very people trying to help them but would refuse any sort of medical treatment and isolation and thus allowed the diseases to inch its way toward major cities where it is now sadly entrenched and exponentially harder to deal with. It was ultimately a spirit of fear and unwarranted paranoia that allowed the present situation to develop. This isn't to say that governments are perfect and without fault or malice and that they should be trusted blindly, but I think it is possible to blind ourselves with unwarranted fear and cause more harm in the end than good because we overshot our concerns a bit too far. Just my thoughts on the matter. Definitely a need to pray and make sure that our hearts are in step with the Lord always.


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 2014/10/11 20:38Profile
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 Why Africa Fears Western Medicine

Hi tbsounde2,

You stirred my interest of why those in Africa do not trust there government and are afraid of any sort of medical treatment : perhaps it is not as unwarranted as we might think. Even though I do understand your point.

Project Coast : "was a top-secret chemical and biological weapons (CBW) program instituted by the South African government during the apartheid era. Project Coast was the successor to a limited post-war CBW program which mainly produced the lethal agents CX powder and mustard gas; as well as non-lethal tear gas for riot control purposes.[1] Project Coast was headed by Wouter Basson, a cardiologist who was the personal physician of the then South African Prime Minister PW Botha..."
"....Research on birth control methods to reduce the black birth rate was one such area. Daan Goosen, the managing director of Roodeplaat Research Laboratories between 1983 and 1986, told Tom Mangold of the BBC that Project Coast supported a project to develop a contraceptive that would have been applied clandestinely to blacks. Goosen reported that the project had developed a vaccine for males and females and that the researchers were still searching for a means by which it could be delivered to make blacks sterile without making them aware. Testimony given at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) suggested that Project Coast researchers were also looking into putting birth control substances in water supplies"
read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Coast


"In 1998 South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission held hearings investigating activities of the apartheid-era government. Toward the end of the hearings, the Commission looked into the apartheid regime's Chemical and Biological Warfare (CBW) program and allegations that it developed a sterility vaccine to use on black South Africans, employed toxic and chemical poison weapons for political asssassination, and in the late 1970s provided anthrax and cholera to Rhodesian troops for use against guerrilla rebels in their war to overthrow Rhodesia's white minority rule.
South Africa's CBW program was headed by Dr. Wouter Basson, a former Special Forces Army Brigadier and personal heart specialist to former President P.W. Botha. Basson ran the CBW program during the 1980s and early 1990s. CBW, also known as Project Coast, was initiated in the early 1980s to provide detection and protection capabilities to the South African Defence Force. However, there was an offensive component to the program and the claims are that CBW's offensive program:
Developed lethal chemical and biological weapons that targeted ANC political leaders and their supporters as well as populations living in the black townships. These weapons included an infertility toxin to secretly sterilize the black population; skin-absorbing poisons that could be applied to the clothing of targets; and poison concealed in products such as chocolates and cigarettes. (Read the interviews with former President F.W. de Klerk, and Dr. Daan Goosen, who worked with Basson in the CBW program.)
Released cholera strains into water sources of certain South African villages and provided anthrax and cholera to the government troops of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) during the late 1970s to use against the rebel soldiers in the guerrilla war. In 1979 the world's largest outbreak of anthrax took place in Rhodesia where 82 people were killed and thousands became ill. Zimbabwe's current Minister of Health, Dr. Timothy Stamps, has ordered an investigation into whether South Africa was involved in the incident............" read more at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sa/

'Why Africa Fears Western Medicine' New York Times wrote : "the most notorious is Wouter Basson, a former head of Project Coast, South Africa’s chemical and biological weapons unit under apartheid. Dr. Basson was charged with killing hundreds of blacks in South Africa and Namibia, from 1979 to 1987, many via injected poisons. He was never convicted in South African courts, even though his lieutenants testified in detail and with consistency about the medical crimes they conducted against blacks." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/31/opinion/31washington.html?_r=0

not sure what year it was wrote but according to the PBS artical : "....Basson is still employed by the government in the military's medical section and South Africa continues to have a CBW program but says it is strictly defensive. The country is now a member of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention and the Chemical Weapons Convention.
"http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sa/

More from the newyork time artical :
"...Africa has harbored a number of high-profile Western medical miscreants who have intentionally administered deadly agents under the guise of providing health care or conducting research. In March 2000, Werner Bezwoda, a cancer researcher at South Africa’s Witwatersrand University, was fired after conducting medical experiments involving very high doses of chemotherapy on black breast-cancer patients, possibly without their knowledge or consent. In Zimbabwe, in 1995, Richard McGown, a Scottish anesthesiologist, was accused of five murders and convicted in the deaths of two infant patients whom he injected with lethal doses of morphine. And Dr. Michael Swango, ultimately convicted of murder after pleading guilty to killing three American patients with lethal injections of potassium, is suspected of causing the deaths of 60 other people, many of them in Zimbabwe and Zambia during the 1980s and ’90s. (Dr. Swango was never tried on the African charges.)
These medical killers are well known throughout Africa..."

"...Although the World Health Organization maintains that the reuse of syringes without sterilization accounts for only 2.5 percent of new H.I.V. infections in Africa, a 2003 study in The International Journal of S.T.D. and AIDS found that as many as 40 percent of H.I.V. infections in Africa are caused by contaminated needles during medical treatment. Even the conservative W.H.O. estimate translates to tens of thousands of cases..."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/31/opinion/31washington.html?_r=0

there concerns are not withou warrant, I think the end of the NYTimes artical concludes fairly :
" Certainly, the vast majority of beneficent Western medical workers in Africa are to be thanked, not censured. But the canon of “silence equals death” applies here: We are ignoring a responsibility to defend the mass of innocent Western doctors against the belief that they are not treating disease, but intentionally spreading it. We should approach Africans’ suspicions with respect, realizing that they are born of the acts of a few monsters and of the deadly constraints on medical care in difficult conditions. By continuing to dismiss their reasonable fears, we raise the risk of even more needless illness and death." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/31/opinion/31washington.html?_r=0








 2014/10/13 17:23Profile
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 Update: Ebola outbreak: Jet passenger alert over US nurse (BBC)

US health officials are seeking 132 people who flew on a plane with a Texas nurse on the day before she came down with symptoms of Ebola.

Read more: http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29632433

 2014/10/15 20:43Profile
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 Re: Update: Ebola outbreak: Jet passenger alert over US nurse (BBC)

Yeah when I read that nurse hopped on a plane to Cleveland knowing she had a fever I could not believe it.

Who is running the CDC and this hospital- the Three Stooges?


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RE: ///Who is running the CDC ...///

Big Pharma !!!

"...for by thy Pharmakeia were all nations deceived."

 2014/10/16 10:22Profile





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