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ArthurRosh
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 Turkish Believers Satanically Tortured for Hours before Being Killed

Turkish Believers Satanically Tortured for Hours before Being Killed

4/25/07 Turkey (International Christian Concern) – The Washington-DC based human rights group, International Christian Concern (ICC) www.www.persecution.org has just learned that the three Christians who were martyred in Turkey last week were horribly tortured for three hours prior to being killed, as details continue to leak out. As difficult and sorrowful it is to learn more, we believe that we must expose the truly hellish nature of this attack for what it is.

On Easter Sunday, five of the killers had been to a service that Pastor Necati had arranged in the city. The men were known to the believers as “seekers.” These young men, one of whom is the son of a mayor in the Province of Malatya , are part of a tarikat, or a group of “faithful believers” in Islam. Tarikat membership is highly respected; it’s like a fraternity membership. In fact, it is said that no one can get into public office without membership in a tarikat.

On the day of the killing, the young Muslim men had arranged to meet the Christians at 10:00 am to ostensibly learn more about the Bible. They had gathered guns, breadknives, ropes and towels (they knew there would be a lot of blood), ready for their act of service to Allah.

They arrived, and reportedly, after Necati read a chapter from the Bible the assault began. The young men tied Ugur, Necati, and Tilman’s hands and feet to chairs as they videoed their work on their cellphones. What followed in the next three hours is beyond belief.

Details of the torture—warning: graphic content.

They were disemboweled, and their intestines sliced up in front of their eyes. They were emasculated and watched as those body parts were destroyed. Fingers were chopped off, their noses and mouths and anuses were sliced open. Possibly the worst part was watching as their brothers were likewise tortured. Tilman was stabbed 156 times, Necati 99 times and Ugur’s stabs were too numerous to count. Finally, their throats were sliced from ear to ear, heads practically decapitated.

Meanwhile, another believer arrived at the office around 12:30. The door was locked from the inside, and his key would not work. He phoned and though it had connection on his end he did not hear the phone ringing inside. He called cell phones of his brothers and finally Ugur answered his phone. “We are not at the office. Go to the hotel meeting. We are there. We will come there,” he said cryptically. As Ugur spoke he heard in the telephone’s background weeping and a strange snarling sound.

He phoned the police, and the nearest officer arrived in about five minutes. He pounded on the door, “Police, open up!” Initially the officer thought it was a domestic disturbance. At that point they heard another snarl and a gurgling moan. The police understood that sound as human suffering, prepared the clip in his gun and tried over and over again to burst through the door. One of the frightened assailants unlocked the door for the policeman, who entered to find a grisly scene.

Tilman and Necati had been slaughtered, practically decapitated with their necks slit from ear to ear. Ugur’s throat was likewise slit and he was barely alive.

After Tillman’s wife learned of the brutal death of her husband she publicly forgave the killers saying “they know not what they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirve_Publishing_House_massacre


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Arthur Rosh

 2014/4/22 19:32Profile









 Re: Turkish Believers Satanically Tortured for Hours before Being Killed

WARNING: Do not read the above if you have a weak stomach.

I read this and was so disgusted to the pit of my soul. Truly demonic indeed! Interesting that the friend and the police officer could hear growls over the phone.

I have actually been inside Turkey on a ministry trip to train underground pastors...and I took my kids with me...truly chilling!!!

 2014/4/22 21:42









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Could you point out precisely where all this detail comes from? Where is the express Satanic element? Where is the disembowelment, castration etc? Who provided this evidence? The reason I ask is because the details are so specific yet they appears to be no more details in any reports other than the cutting of the throat. This may be because the details are still subject to a trial process yet these details you have posted would ordinarily only come out after a trial and not before one.

 2014/4/22 22:06









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This happened 7 years ago according to the date posted.

 2014/4/22 22:42
UntoBabes
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Here is a good word from his wife.
I listened to her at a VOM conference

http://youtu.be/Cve9i1EkuBQ


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Fifi

 2014/4/22 23:11Profile









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Quote:
This happened 7 years ago according to the date posted.



I realise of course that this happened seven years ago.

However the five suspects have been released on conditional bail due to a change in Turkish law regarding the detention of untried suspects not exceeding five years. This is part of the EEU process for Turkish Membership.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/conditional-release-of-5-suspects-of-missionary-murders-provokes-strong-reactions.aspx?pageID=238&nID=63386&NewsCatID=339

I can't precisely say why this original report bothers me but it does. I have been through all the reported events on this sad affair and I have yet to find a single one which makes the grim claims which are in the original article posted on the ICC website.

http://www.persecution.org/2007/04/25/turkish-believers-satanically-tortured-for-hours-before-being-killed/

Even the Turkish language reports do not mention any of these details. The turkish reports such as http://www.haberturk.com/gundem/haber/20684-joleli-emre-nasil-cellat-oldu do not give this kind of detail.

The five attackers were called Mehmet Gokce, Kürsat Kocadağ, Mehmet Uludag, Mesut Taşdelen and Abdullah Mahmud Kudaş. The attacker named Mehmet Gokce is a retired police officers son. It has been shown recently that the Police in Turkey are implicated in these attacks by reason of a computer system hard drive which contains not only details of the planned attacks and the surveillance around them up to three months prior, but includes films of the funerals of one of the brothers murdered as well. The drive also contained lists of Missionary workers in Turkey along with passport numbers etc. The hard drive belonged to the department head of the Malatya Provincial Gendarmerie Command's Intelligence Department.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-305306-zirve-killers-planned-bible-publisher-murders-well-in-advance.html

No where at any time has anyone other than International Christian Concern on the 25/04/2007 made such extensive claims regarding the extent and detail of the attack. I am not really certain why this concerns me as it does but I have a bad witness regarding this incident.

 2014/4/22 23:19
UntoBabes
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If you are interested in some history, watch the Armenian Genocide.

http://youtu.be/548lD5SvERk


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Fifi

 2014/4/22 23:41Profile









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Brethren.since the early days of Persecution Watch I made a commitment we would not glory in the gory.

I read heart wrenching reports of what Satan is doing against the believers in Christ. But to review the specifics of how this saints died is to focus on the devil and what he is doing.

Our focus should rather be on the witness of those who have and are enduring persecution for the sake of Christ.

This thread should be out to rest. These saints are in the presence of Christ. Nothing is to be served reviewing the gruesome details of their deaths.

Blaine Scogin

 2014/4/23 8:51
Ruach34
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Amen


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