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KingJimmy
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I preached on this recently a couple weeks ago at my church. One thing that the Lord has been showing me is that repentance is not to be the thrust of our message. He has shown me as I have closely studied the book of Acts lately that the thrust of apostolic preaching was not repentance... but the thrust of apostolic preaching was that Jesus Christ who was crucified was alive from the dead.

I believe if people truly came to have a revelation of the fact that Jesus Christ was alive from the dead, they would realize that He is indeed the one appointed as judge of all the earth. Therefore men who would come to believe this could no longer remain the same. Therefore because Jesus is risen from the dead, men must repent, and do so quickly as the Lord may shortly return.

I recorded this sermon, perhaps Greg will allow me to share a link to my own site with it. It truly has been a burden for me.


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Seek, Dig in the Field and find the Treasure Our Father has placed there-in and then count the Cost of the Treasure who is our Lord Jesus. Pay the Cost, which is our all and all our prime-time and abide with him and he will give you missions and make a real slave out of you.


Amen brother Micheal!! this message: [url=http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=4224]The Power of Prayer (video) by Keith Daniel[/url] has been one that has very much stirred my heart for personal revival and to enter into serious spiritual warfare in prayer. It is not a trumpet call for mobilisation of home churches but rather for personal seeking after the Lord and getting serious with Him. From that will result in a revival that will change many. Let the prayer of the Apostle Paul be ours today for the spiritual power we need to do His will: [b]Ephesians 1:19-20[/b] - "and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places."

Oh Lord send your [i]Dunamis[/i] Power upon us for service, we humbly ask!

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I recorded this sermon, perhaps Greg will allow me to share a link to my own site with it. It truly has been a burden for me.


If anyone wants to hear brother Jimmys sermons you can go to his own personal website at: http://www.christiansteps.com/ where you can access that sermon and many other resources that this brother has wrote. [end plug] :-P


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If anyone wants to hear brother Jimmys sermons you can go to his own personal website at: http://www.christiansteps.com/ where you can access that sermon and many other resources that this brother has wrote. [end plug]



Just a note, it's not availbe through that address directly. I've not posted a link to it yet. http://www.christiansteps.com/sermons/jesus_is_alive.mp3 would be the correct address for this sermon :)


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more information please.


I'll leave you with Matthew 13:54-58

And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.


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Mark Daniel

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filter themselves out of God's messages



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Settle your emotions and bitterness.



These could be apllied broadly.

Thanks brother for bringing some wisdom to all of this. Especially in regards to the church.


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 Re: Andrew Strom's Battle Plan



Brother Robert you wrote:
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"Labels tend to isolate"

Amen ... i remember in my early years of salvation our Lord put me on a mission about church denomonations ... i remember sitting in a Baptist church and listening to the pastor/saints tear down the Pentecostals ... Then Holy Spirit moved me to a Pentecostal church, and lo and behold they were doing the same towards the Baptist ... This hurt my spirit pretty bad for i knew what the scriptures said about "love ye one another", and i got to complaining to our Lord ... Holy Spirit fired me up and used me then to bring those two pastors/churches together in fellowship of praise and worship, dwelling on who we have in common, and overlooking what we don't, and do you know that those same to churches still fellowship to this day? ... it was not easy at first, and i took a few shots from both sides, but in the end both men loved God, and the conviction of His living Word did the trick ... i still get a chuckle out of the Baptist preacher telling me one day that i had turned Him into a Bapticostal ... Of course i had to tell Him it wasn't me ... '0) ... Perhaps you can point out to the leadership that the "John the Baptist Conference" is a label too, and if their not careful will become another denomination ... God forbid!


This other thing you said brough sadness to my heart ...
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"I was the only 'church' guy there. What he did not know is that I am in ministry almost 5 days a week in front of people and I was not a 'typical' church guy.


My Lord, how have we become so presumptious that any of us could make a fellow joint heir in Christ have the type of feeling that you had there ... i know that feeling you felt, and it is an awful one ... Ostracism and condemnation by members of your own family ... How can we forget that we are ALL THE CHURCH! ... Yes some of us on occasion might wanna be a little flippant and call it Christian City, but they're still our brothers and sisters in Christ, worthy of our private prayers, and our public service in love to Christ, His Body, and the heathen, by our being tools in the use of Holy Spirit to right the errors ... Like brother Greg i too am a bit unnerved by the term "Battle Plan" ... Battle Plan against whom? ... Against our fellow brothers and sisters in the Body? ... That doesn't sound spiritual to me, in fact it sounds divisive ... Didn't Christ say that a house divided cannot stand? ... Didn't Jesus say that He built His church on Peter, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it? ... Jesus Himself is the only one that can draw up a battle plan, and He had Paul tell us all about it in the book of Ephesians, what to put on, why, who it's against, and it ain't each other ... Christ love manifested in us toward one another is what it's all about, as i will elaborate on later ...

It is my understanding that the prophet delivers God's warning that repentance is in order, and also the warning of God's judgment if the message of repentance goes unheeded ... The prophet is not the judgment itself ... The prophet is not sent to go out of his way to persecute folk for the righteous words of God spoken thru the prophet, cutting like a double edged sword, is persecution enough ... In fact i think that it does well to note that the prophets of old didn't dish out persecution, they recieved it ... They didn't kill the people they were sent to, the people they were sent to often killed them ... Vengeance belongs to our LOrd, He shall repay! ... Perhaps it can be presented to those angry that in His parting words to Us, His Church, in Rev. chapters 2 & 3, that even tho our Bridegroom isn't pleased with every type church on the scene, we're ALL still His ... And when there comes the time for any removal of "candlesticks", or "spewing out", He's the only one according to John worthy of doing so! ... i think the entirety of the Body of Christ is in need of the reality check that we all sin (still) and fall short (still) of the glory of God ... i don't know when (tho i sense it sooner than later), and exactly how Holy Spirit is gonna bring it to pass, but before it's all over we're gonna display the love He spoke of in John 13: 34,35 ...

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another" ...

i'd say we've all done a poor job of showing this love sufficiently to the present world yet, but i sure do believe we're going to ... We're still ruptured, and i for one don't believe Holy Spirit will rapture a ruptured Church ... His correction of us all can't start soon enough for me ... Amen

 2005/3/12 12:37Profile
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Bro Greg wrote: Battle Plan? I am abit worried about wording of this and the overall sense of what is being conveyed.



Bro Greg and Bro. Tony have brought up another aspect of 'caution' that needs to be considered; wording. When we start talking about the things of God we have to be careful how we do it. This is a lesson I am learning myself to this day. There is a point to which a message can be 'watered down' to 75% or 80% of the truth and that truth be compromised. On the other hand there is also the possibility of adding 10%-20% of our own imaginations and wrecking the whole message.

Let me share a story to illustrate how real this caution needs to be. The Jews are very offended by the whole Christian 'Crusade' thing. For example; Churches hold children's crusades not realizing that the original children's crusades have a horrible history. It happens that a Jewish believer I knew went home to see his parents after attanding a popular Christian college. When there he reached into his wallet and his school ID fell out. There it was- the school called themselves "The Crusaders." The man said his dad looked at him as if to say; "My son is dead!"

We are certainly at war- but what are we at war with? Ephesians 6 says it is principalities, powers, and the rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in the heavenly realms. Are we at war with the Church? Are we at war with preachers? Are we at war with Christians who need to repent? What are we at war with? Who or what is the object of such 'violence.'

What will happen if this does not tone down is that there will be a small number of churches that allow the repentance preachers in and the rest will 'balk' at it. That will fuel the rage even more as if it were a self-fulfilling prophecy. See, they will say, they don't want repentance! Well, in many cases that is right, but what about the churches that could have been ministered to if the leaven had been left out?

What is the solution? Shine the light! Show someone what the 'genuine' looks like and let the 'genuine' do the ministry. Show the world how to love the unlovable. Give yourselves to the people. Love them like God loves them. We can't give what we don't have. We need a working model of the genuine.

God Bless,

-Robert


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