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 And Where is Jesus???

Recently I recieved a catalog from a Bible Society that I order New Testaments from. In the catalog there was a story about a woman who has been changed by reading the Word of God. Ordinarily I find such stories inspiring as they testify to the power of Scripture and one's life. But I found in the story that something was missing or I should say someone was missing. I did not read once about the name of Jesus who changes this woman's life.

One would suppose in reading the story that the woman was changed through an encounter with Jesus. But as I reflected more on this I wonder if this is not the ploy of Satan to shift the emphasis off of Jesus even in evangelical organizations.

This Bible Society used to have a wonderful mission statement that described their ministry as to translate tbe word of God into a way to bring people to saving faith and life in Christ. But the religionists came in and put in a mission statement that reflected more in the church and the Bible and not bringing the lost to faith in Christ. So I ask where is Jesus Christ?

I noticed in the controversy surrounding FBC Dallas the satement was FBC was founded on the Bible. I thought the church was founded on the rock of Jesus Christ. The press statement said people in Dallas are hungry for the Bible. I thought they were hungry for Jesus Christ. So where is Jesus Cbrist?

Jesus rebuked the Jewish theologians over their love of Bible study in and of itself. He said that these were the scriptures that testified of himself. Yet these Jewish teachers could not look up from the Torah to see Him, their Messiah who fullfilled the Torah. Let alone desire a relationship with him.

All too often I think today's evangelicals typify the Jews James spoke of in Acts. They believe but are zealous for the law. Many evangelicas believe. But they are zealous for their particular translation of the Bible and their favorite doctrines. All the whole ignoring Him of whom the Scriptures testify.

Saints I always will encourage and exhort believers to read and meditate on the word. But let us remember the word is a guide by which we are wise for salvation in Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are that which bring us to saving faith and life in our Lord Jesus Christ.

My thoughts.


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 2013/2/23 9:59
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Very good word brother. May we see Christ and hunger after Him in all that we say and do. May our Bible reading lead us to the water flowing from the rock!


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 2013/2/23 10:08Profile
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Thanks for this post Bearmaster.

When meeting new believers and not really knowing them. Would people on here say the following is a good guide deciding whether they are true or not is:

Whether Jesus is mentioned and more importantly is He glorified?

Last week I met some Christians I didn't know. Their prayers seemed powerful, but Christ was not mentioned much really.

Just some thoughts.

 2013/2/23 16:36Profile
proudpapa
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Hi bearmaster

bearmaster wrote ///Recently I recieved a catalog from a Bible Society that I order New Testaments from. In the catalog there was a story about a woman who has been changed by reading the Word of God. Ordinarily I find such stories inspiring as they testify to the power of Scripture and one's life. But I found in the story that something was missing or I should say someone was missing. I did not read once about the name of Jesus who changes this woman's life.
One would suppose in reading the story that the woman was changed through an encounter with Jesus. But as I reflected more on this I wonder if this is not the ploy of Satan to shift the emphasis off of Jesus even in evangelical organizations.
This Bible Society used to have a wonderful mission statement that described their ministry as to translate tbe word of God into a way to bring people to saving faith and life in Christ. But the religionists came in and put in a mission statement that reflected more in the church and the Bible and not bringing the lost to faith in Christ. So I ask where is Jesus Christ?///

This is true, As Jesus said Beware of the scribes.

Many many false religions use the Bible and yet not one, not a single false religion believes the Bible, because had they believed the Bible they would have believed on Christ; for the Bible wrote of Jesus Christ.

bearmaster wrote ///I noticed in the controversy surrounding FBC Dallas the satement was FBC was founded on the Bible. I thought the church was founded on the rock of Jesus Christ. The press statement said people in Dallas are hungry for the Bible. I thought they were hungry for Jesus Christ. So where is Jesus Cbrist?///

This is a good point, unfortunately many people let their gaurd down when they hear key words or key doctrines used, such as we believe in the inspiration of the Bible or we believe in Jesus. Men can make the Bible say anything and they can create all kinds and typs of jesus.

We need to Believe in the Scriptures so that we Can believe the Jesus of The Scriptures.

If our belief in the scripture does not reveal the accurate Jesus than according to Jesus we are not trully believing the scripture, If our Jesus is not revealed in the scripture than we are not believing the right jesus.

bearmaster wrote ///Jesus rebuked the Jewish theologians over their love of Bible study in and of itself. He said that these were the scriptures that testified of himself. Yet these Jewish teachers could not look up from the Torah to see Him, their Messiah who fullfilled the Torah. Let alone desire a relationship with him.///

This is in Reference to John ch 5 v 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

We must read it in its context, Jesus points out to them that they did not really believe the scripture had they ,they would have recognized Christ, Their is absolutely nothing in these verses that undermind the scriptures nay just the opposite.

bearmaster wrote ///All too often I think today's evangelicals typify the Jews James spoke of in Acts. They believe but are zealous for the law. Many evangelicas believe. But they are zealous for their particular translation of the Bible and their favorite doctrines. All the whole ignoring Him of whom the Scriptures testify.///

Is FBC Dallas "zealous for their particular translation of the Bible" ??

I think more of a problem with Christianity today is as you say "their favorite doctrines" traditions that make the word of God of none effect, It seems that many do not care what kind of liberties that translators use with thier bibles as long as their is still some scripture left that they can prove their doctrines with.

bearmaster wrote ///Saints I always will encourage and exhort believers to read and meditate on the word. But let us remember the word is a guide by which we are wise for salvation in Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are that which bring us to saving faith and life in our Lord Jesus Christ.
My thoughts.
Bearmaster///

We must relieze that the Written Revelation is so detailed and intricately deep so as to allow God to inspire more and more personal revelation on to us with the deeper that we go.
Muller was supposed to have read it 100 times and discovered new Revelation every time.
The Written Logos works hand in hand with the inward Logos of a believer.




















 2013/2/24 2:12Profile
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I find this true as well. In fact this inspiration is so rich, so enduring, so wonderful it dampens my hankering for any other kind of theological work. This, after all, is based on someone else's perception of Scripture that may have been inspired by the Holy Spirit OR mere intellectual curiosity. A lot of work and time can be saved by doing this study your self - similar to eating a just cooked meal vs one that has been sitting in the frig for a week uncovered...

My opinion...


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ginnyrose wrote //// I find this true as well. In fact this inspiration is so rich, so enduring, so wonderful it dampens my hankering for any other kind of theological work. This, after all, is based on someone else's perception of Scripture that may have been inspired by the Holy Spirit OR mere intellectual curiosity. A lot of work and time can be saved by doing this study your self - similar to eating a just cooked meal vs one that has been sitting in the frig for a week uncovered...

My opinion...////

Very well put, absoulutly true.

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ginnyrose wrote //// I find this true as well. In fact this inspiration is so rich, so enduring, so wonderful it dampens my hankering for any other kind of theological work. This, after all, is based on someone else's perception of Scripture that may have been inspired by the Holy Spirit OR mere intellectual curiosity. A lot of work and time can be saved by doing this study your self - similar to eating a just cooked meal vs one that has been sitting in the frig for a week uncovered...

My opinion...////

Very well put, absoulutly true.

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