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sonofthunder
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Son Of Thunder i come from a land down under, due south at the bottom of your work globes

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Perhaps dont assume anything.

You are judging me now.

If your someone trying to justify sarcasm.

Your barking up the wrong tree.

Paul said in colossians and ephesians we should know "put offs"

His words not mine. Were we should

As new borns *put off* this this and this

Otherwise sanctification in the spirit ...means nothing.

So new testament christians are worse off ...than o.t saints?.

Or have more power over Sins

Sin shall NOT have dominion over you.

For you are NOT under law (but grace)

Pauls words not mine.

The law caused the offence to increase.

The law worked wrath.

Grace works in the opposite vein.

That is According to paul ( not me)

Therefore (and a no brainer)

Sarcasm shouldnt be to difficult to die out to nor justify

Let alone reign in. (And crucify)


Whats so hard or difficult about dying out to this Sin?

Why do people. Want to ustify sarcasm and being condescending

Its so unlike christ.

(And we are called to follow in his steps)

Make excuses for being holy - - not unholy.

Accept it and move on.

Get over it

I can tell you right here and now.

Gid does NOT condone sarcasm.

In any way - shape- or form.

Your decieved to think otherwise.

Seriously:


Give up the cit-coms at 7.00 pm ( there funny)

But deadly to your walk in christ


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 2013/2/28 5:07Profile
dohzman
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I don't watch TV so I have no idea whats on at what time.I enjoy humor, I see it all around me. Sarcasm in the prophets of the Old Testament as well as in many great New Testament preachers has been used to make points. A steady diet of any one thing is.....dull/dry, lifeless. I have been looking for Paul's passage that says put off humor...figured it was some where between the Old-man and...just kidding brother.I was just wondering if maybe you may have watched some of those sit-coms so that you know first hand what they are about, humor wise?Personally I haven't and don't intend doing so.


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D.Miller

 2013/3/4 0:36Profile
sonofthunder
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Son Of Thunder i come from a land down under, due south at the bottom of your work globes

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I dont believe humour is bad

(Dont re call saying that anywhere)

I dont believe Jesus indulged in sarcasm (however)

and he's the role model ...were called ...to walk in his steps.

If you dis-agree ( thats your choice )

Personally speaking (which is often) how i phrase a lot of my writings.

Personally after living 50 some years on this planet i fail to see a good side to sarcasm.

What i do however know is this: that people often get reproved and rebuked by others " who say in response to it (that is sarcasm) are you being sarcastic to me ...are you" ? people dont seem to appreciate it.

that is sarcastic attitudes and sarcastic humour.

usually sarcasm is Loaded ...and inflicts a wound ...to the hearer.

It unfortuanately is Rated as some kind ( form ) of humour.

But it gendereth towards its sister ( ridicule and mocking)

And i might be mocked ...and/or ridiculed.

But let me say this ...

(God is not mocked) and never shall be:

As for the cit-coms ...the comment was not made

(to make comparisons "re" personal levels of consecration)

but merely in reference to how ...a lot of what is comedy nowadays is not a good influence on us especially is your are someone that "chooses"

its a choice (not to be tainted) by such humour or comedy..


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 2013/3/4 4:31Profile
sonofthunder
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Actually this response has me thinking Isnt there so much in proverbs about the scorner, the scoffer, those given to foolishness and folly?

And james warns about the tongue being a veritable/ literal world of iniquity ....set on fire of hell.

Jesus said by our words were justifified or condemned.

And shall give account ...for every IDLE word.

I know peter said of the prophets ( they were holy )

he's right ( the HOLY Ghost ) came upon them - by God.

They were moved By the holy ghost ...and inspired ... by the HOLY SPIRIT

From God. If the prophets engaged in sarcasm or ridicule.

Do we say God was behind it.

Mmm. Big call






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 2013/3/4 5:26Profile
sonofthunder
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Some online definitions and usage of sarcasm are as follows:

Someone who is sarcastic often says the opposite "of what they mean" in order to Mock or Insult someone.

A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound:

A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language - and is intended to make the VICTIM ...The butt of contempt or ridicule.
(thats interesting there held up contempt and ridicule)

Sarcasm: a sharp bitter. cutting expression, a bitter gibe or taunt.

Sarcasm comes from the Greek word (sarkasmos) which means to "tear flesh" " bite lip in rage, sneer.

Sarcasm overall meanings: ironical, satirical, cynical, cutting, caustic, biting, acid, mocking, backhanded, contemptous, sneering, disparaging, sardonic, vitriolic, derisive: out of this entire list only 2 possible exceptions might be found to use sarcasm: irony and satire.

The rest is is all Bad and damaging.

As for those seemingly 2:exceptions ...fine lines to work with (very fine
that is without crossing boundaries) or it degenerating into garbage.

Another point of interest most web sites thought overall its harmful.

Those who justified some exceptions and giving examples of usage generslly used sexual references and swear words in there examples.

interesting.

using irony and satire is in effect dancing with the devil ...how do you control sarcasm before someone gets terribly hurt and eventually offended?

Personally i will stay with paul ...a little leaven ...leavens the whole of the lump.

My opinion is your better off ...staying right away from it.(sarcasm)

likewise with all sin its not a matter of how close i can come without falling over the edge ...but a case of- how far AWAY i can Get.

Seriously you bettetr off....purging it ...from your life ( honestly saints) keep right away from it. Flee jesting and jesters. There absolute poison.


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 2013/3/4 9:08Profile
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I thought that might gain a fire storm from you.I'm not sure that you have read the bible New Testament anyway without preconceived notions on this subject matter. When I have time I'll list some scripture for you on sarcasm in the NT and show you some examples. None stoop as low as your definition however but are meant to jab at sin in a cutting way. Among people I know who use sarcasm, most do not go to the base extreme. Here's an example of what is sarcasm: Someone talks on _______(blank issue) and the hearer responds with,"Are you kidding me!", that my friend is sarcasm, expressions like "Really?"," Seriously?", and many more are also used in a sarcastic way. I think maybe people have used sarcasm in your past that hurt you and so you may have a perverted view of the subject matter. That's alright though its really no big deal. It may be that your convictions are a counter balance to the opposite extreme, and to that I say good for you, honestly...no sarcasm intended.


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