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Discussion Forum : News and Current Events : John Piper @ Passion 2013 with JESUS CULTURE????

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 John Piper @ Passion 2013 with JESUS CULTURE????

Andre Cook Martins

 2013/1/5 17:24Profile

 Re: John Piper @ Passion 2013 with JESUS CULTURE????

 2013/1/5 17:47

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 Re: John Piper @ Passion 2013 with JESUS CULTURE????

The kingdom of God is a bit larger than you think. Discernment may be in order here. :)



 2013/1/5 20:30Profile

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Washington ~ the state ;)

 Re: John Piper @ Passion 2013 with JESUS CULTURE????

I remember several years ago another Bible teacher was invited ~ and went ~ to an event. That person was castigated by many for going for much the same reason you question Brother Piper. Their response was, "If I don't go, who will tell them the truth?"

I don't know much of anything about Passion or those you mention but I wonder if this could not be a similar response.

 2013/1/5 22:13Profile

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America's Heartand


andrecook asked

Is this lack of information on his part of just lack of discernment?

It is definitely lack of discernment. However, it isn't on Piper's part. It is on yours.

Give it a rest. Get off the witch hunt. Quit looking down on folks that are actively doing something for God. Get off the couch and do something yourself besides criticizing. You may find you don't have time to any longer engage in pointless criticism.

Did you actually watch the stream of the conference or just criticize services that you had no first hand knowledge of?

The moderators have specifically asked that this type of accusatory thread not be started. That is their desire for good reason.

 2013/1/5 23:04Profile

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 Re: John Piper @ Passion 2013 with JESUS CULTURE????

John Piper is not a novice in the things of the Lord. If he was at a conference where "Jesus Culture" was leading the praise and worship, then I would like to hear his take on it. I believe that we do need discernment, but I do know this, that there are many young people out there that like the music of "Jesus Culture" that are passionate followers of Jesus Christ. The danger is that Christians can be on fire for the Lord and at the same time get caught up in emotional excitement. The Lord is going to sort all this out and deal with those that are His and are moving out of their soulish realm.



 2013/1/6 1:47Profile

Joined: 2011/12/7
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Los Angeles


Amen mike!

I think the issue has to do more with bill Johnson than with Jesus culture. As some of you may know Johnson is connected to such figures as Todd Bentley and che Ann. And Johnson himself participated in the Toronto blessing of the 90s. So it is no surprise that bethel church is heavily influenced by these movements. But just because piper is attending a conference with a band that some question doesn't make him an undiscerning Christian. Piper im sure is more interested in ministering the word to the young people. Because he knows the word is what changes the heart. Personally I dislike Jesus culture and Johnson's bethel but I have friends that listen to JC that are passionate for God, as mike pointed out.


 2013/1/6 2:14Profile



you are right.

 2013/1/6 2:27

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