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Croref Member
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| Love will always limit our liberty | | Love will always limit our liberty. When love ceases transgressions increase to destroy the soul; with the disposition greatly weakened and now being without restraints or ability to resist, the intensity of self-gratification becomes overpowering. Lust now decides, not God!
It was not the unilateral power of God that won the victory for Jesus but Jesus love and allegiance to the Father that could only release Gods Power to Him for the victory. The victory must be from man alone for it to accomplish the full purposes of God for having created him. With the complete devotion of His Heart revealed to Father, God withheld nothing from Jesus. Though sin would continually couch at His door, His love TO God kept Satan at bay. This is why Jesus was crowned by God and highly exalted by Him. This why it will be Jesus, "SON of MAN" coming again in clouds of Glory! |
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2012/11/22 8:45 | Profile |
turn Member
Joined: 2011/4/27 Posts: 177 USA
| Re: Love will always limit our liberty | | He that has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. - John 14:21
Keep yourselves in the love of God... - Jude 1:21 |
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2012/11/22 10:10 | Profile |
Croref Member
Joined: 2008/3/18 Posts: 334
| Re: | | Amen! We must strive to do it as Jesus did and for the same reasons He did it. That's kingdom 'speak' to me. cf John 17:3. |
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2012/11/22 10:27 | Profile |
White_Stone Member
Joined: 2008/10/25 Posts: 1196 North Central Florida
| I say, *lack of love* will always limit our liberty | | Hello Croref,
You wrote: "The victory must be from man alone for it to accomplish the full purposes of God for having created him."
Without Jesus we are nothing. We may feel we have learned something but without His Grace, even the things we think we know will not be remembered and we will be lost. The victory was Jesus on the cross and now sitting at the Right Hand of God.
ws
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2012/11/22 10:47 | Profile |
Croref Member
Joined: 2008/3/18 Posts: 334
| Re: I say, *lack of love* will always limit our liberty | | by White_Stone on 2012/11/22 7:47:18
Hello Croref,
You wrote: "The victory must be from man alone for it to accomplish the full purposes of God for having created him."
Without Jesus we are nothing. We may feel we have learned something but without His Grace, even the things we think we know will not be remembered and we will be lost. The victory was Jesus on the cross and now sitting at the Right Hand of God.
ws
Given what I wrote, why do you conclude I don't understand all that??
Could Jesus do it without the Father?? Can we do without the Father? OMT, this is not about our salvation but becoming in Him what was purposed for us to become AFTER our being saved by Father's, grace. |
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2012/11/22 11:01 | Profile |
ginnyrose Member
Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
| Re: | | Croref, I also had a problem understanding this phrase, "The victory must be from man alone for it to accomplish the full purposes of God..."
All the victories I have experience came with the assistance of the Holy Spirit. I could never accomplish any alone.
QUOTE: " Given what I wrote, why do you conclude I don't understand all that??"
Croref, not everybody reads all your posts... So, yes, I am still puzzled about this phrase. Perhaps you could clarify?
ginnyrose
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2012/11/22 23:18 | Profile |
Croref Member
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| Re: | | by ginnyrose on 2012/11/22 20:18:56
Croref, I also had a problem understanding this phrase, "The victory must be from man alone for it to accomplish the full purposes of God..."
All the victories I have experience came with the assistance of the Holy Spirit. I could never accomplish any alone.
What assistance did you get that your love did not generate?
QUOTE: " Given what I wrote, why do you conclude I don't understand all that??"
Croref, not everybody reads all your posts... So, yes, I am still puzzled about this phrase. Perhaps you could clarify?
ginnyrose
Do you the one that has to do with obedience?
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2012/11/23 8:13 | Profile |
ginnyrose Member
Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
| Re: | | ______________________________________________________________ QUOTE: "Do you the one that has to do with obedience?" ______________________________________________________________
Croref, may I ask? do you live in a foreign country where you just learned to read/speak English? The reason I ask is because this question is confusing - it seems to lack a few words, which leaves me guessing what you mean.
So, I am assuming you are asking "does God not expect obedience?" To this question I will say "Yes." Without obedience we will not see the LORD.
Are we understanding each other now?
_________________ Sandra Miller
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2012/11/23 9:37 | Profile |
Croref Member
Joined: 2008/3/18 Posts: 334
| Re: | | And will love TO Him not give it without Him asking? |
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2012/11/23 9:40 | Profile |
enid Member
Joined: 2006/5/22 Posts: 2680 Nottingham, England
| Re: | | Ginny,
You're right.
He does speak another language.
What kind of a reply was that?
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2012/11/23 10:23 | Profile |