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proudpapa
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 carnal mind

Romans 8:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 Because the carnal (sarx) mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be


Romans 8:7
New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)
7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.


are these saying the same thing ??

Have you meditated on what the Sarx mind is ??

What is your thoughts of what the Sarx mind is ??

 2012/11/3 11:15Profile
Croref
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 Re: carnal mind

An unsubmitted freewill will always be without God. However, It doesn't mean God isn't recognized in the matter. What is the definition of rebellion?__ hmm, lets see...

 2012/11/3 11:25Profile
proudpapa
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 Re: Croref

Hi Croref,

How can a will be both free and submitted ??

 2012/11/3 11:34Profile
Croref
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 Re:

What else do you have to offer the Lord?

 2012/11/3 11:37Profile
proudpapa
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 Re: Croref

Hi Croref if we offer our free will to the Lord is it any longer a Free will ??

Would it not rather be a submitted will ??

I am just thinking as I am typing is that why some people get so offended when they hear the phrase free will ??

 2012/11/3 11:42Profile
Croref
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Is there not liberty in Jesus? Offering our freewill to Him is as being His bond slave, no? __for which we can rejoice for the privilege?
Did not Paul say "offer yourselves asa living sacrifice which is [only] our reasonable service, correct?

If our freewill or lack of, is something to be argued out then would it not be reasonable to assume our ability to mature would be as well? __ and yet we are told to grow in Grace__in Christ.

 2012/11/3 12:01Profile
proudpapa
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 Re:

Is not the liberty in Jesus the Liberty to now do the will of God??

Is the free will and the Carnal mind the same thing ??
I am just thinking as I am typing.

 2012/11/3 12:22Profile
Croref
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 Re:

As someone of note once said: "Love God and do as you please".

What does that mean except God will be the only one we will want to please.

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. How come if all we see is a creed to live by?

BTW: Carnal mind = flesh = unsubmitted "self".

 2012/11/3 12:27Profile
proudpapa
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 Re:

Hi Croref, good thoughts!! good definition for Carnal mind also!

 2012/11/3 12:31Profile
Croref
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)) Thank you. Great subject matter!

 2012/11/3 12:36Profile





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