| Re: this meeting|
i was wondering how it was, with this couple.
your opinion on what was taught?
& the whole progression of the night.
| 2005/3/18 11:42||Profile|
Hmm.. Well i really hate being negitive and talking about just what i didnt agree with, so i'll start with the positive.
There was once person saved, about 3-4 baptized in the holy spirit. Some people that seemed to be blessed by God....
There a part that Katie spoke for awhile about giving. Todd then spoke. It was primarily about "reciveing your blessing". There was some talk about evangelizing.
The alter calls... hmm... I heard I think it was Wilkerson say once that so many preachers act like they are Holy Ghost bar tenders... Todd kept saying "Come and drink up.. drink up" I couldnt get that quote out of Wilkerson's out of my head. He said something that did disturb me during the alter call.. He said "open up and just recive don't pray just recive...now doesnt that break your tradition... just open up and recive what God has for you"
I didnt like that because that brought to mind how demonic activity works (not God) demons want you to clear your mind and just recive and not think. God does not work that way. I'm in no means saying they are demonic, please dont misuderstand me. I just felt uneasy with what he said. Over all as much as it grieves me.. it was an average modern service.. with emphasis on giving and reciveing your blessing. Please pray for this couple and my church. I'm not trying to say that they are not used by God for others to be saved.. From there video's they seem to be doing some good work in Africa. If you go to see them I would just suggest to be prayerfull, which ofcourse we should be at all times.
| 2005/3/18 11:57||Profile|
Also, like I posted eariler i belive they were a part of the brownsville revival. (agree or disagree thats not the question :-P ) The same things that happened in brownsville follow their ministry.
| 2005/3/18 13:01||Profile|
Edmonton Alberta Cda.
Is it just me, or are people more and more being drawn in by "HYPE"? RE: Sermonindex 2 Timothy 4:3-4
| 2005/3/18 15:44||Profile|
Yes many people are drawn in by hype. So many people are drawn by their emotions and not the spirit of God. Thats one big problem with the carismatic type of services. Many don't belive that it is a "good service" unless people are falling down, speaking in tougues, and dancing around. This isnt ussally so. This is scary.
People get drawn in by feelings and after awhile they just except every feeling to be from God. This isnt always so. Not that God doesnt manifest Himself but the Devil does too. Thats why we must be "in the Spirit on the Lord's day" and make sure every one of your days are "the Lord's day" and not your own.
| 2005/3/18 18:24||Profile|
Quote:RUN from these spirits of iniquity and don't ever look back! DO NOT let these people lay hands on you! Just because a spirit comes wagging its tongue and professing the name of Jesus or the Holy Spirit means absolutely NOTHING anymore. TEST THEM according to the WORD. I saw a flock in Madison, Wisconsin last weekend subjugated to demonic forces by a lying spirit through a false prophet that came in the name of Jesus Christ.
The alter calls... hmm... I heard I think it was Wilkerson say once that so many preachers act like they are Holy Ghost bar tenders... Todd kept saying "Come and drink up.. drink up"
It stood there and preached miracles and heresies, promised earth-shaking manifestations of "God" to come this year and mocked the brethren while they cheered it on. And all in the name of Jesus and "loving one another" and "loving your brother." They were devoured because they put down their Bibles on their chairs and exchanged it for an 'experience' with this new "Jesus." Things of God were called of Satan and things of Satan were called of God!
I did a write up on the whole event after listening to the recording several times. Check out this excerpted tally of terms used at this Brownsville/Toronto imitation and ask yourself if this is the Jesus of the Bible:
Miracles, signs, wonders, healings, etc. - 23
Tsunamis, earthquakes, shakings, etc. - 50
Visions, dreams, supernatural, seeing, etc. - 16
Dimensions, angels, anointings, portals, fire, etc. - 16
Order, power, release, words, etc. - 47
Love, spirit, rest, etc. - 47
Blood of Jesus - 1
Gospel - 1
And the one time the gospel was spoken of through the whole speech, it was a false gospel that was preached. We were told the gospel of Jesus is to "love one another."
It's time to stop singing songs around the campfire with Jesus folks! The enemy is devouring the flock as we speak! We need prayer and we need workers!
Please don't anyone tell me I am preaching with a pointing finger. I've been there. I've attended these meetings. I speak from experience. I've had to repent and wail before my LORD for my foolishness and feeble ways.
SEEK THE TRUTH OF GOD'S HOLY WORD. If these people attending these meetings are not hearing and believing the gospel Paul preached, THEY ARE NOT BEING SAVED! RUN AWAY from the movement of this spirit. Warn the sheep! Tell them to flee!
CLEAVE TO YOUR BIBLE! GET IN THE SCRIPTURES. DO NOT PART WITH THE WORD OF THE LORD! KEEP IT ON YOU AT ALL TIMES.
2 Corinthians 11 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
2 Corinthians 11 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
A voice crying out,
| 2005/3/18 23:52||Profile|