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Lordoitagain
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 Beginning Jan 1 in California it will be AGAINST THE LAW to try to turn minors away from sodomy ...



Under the new law, which will take effect Jan. 1, no mental health provider will be able to provide therapy that seeks "to change behaviors or gender expressions, or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals of the same sex."

Mental health professionals who violate the law, which applies to therapy for patients younger than 18, will be subject to discipline by whatever group licenses them.

The therapy often starts from the premise that a person's childhood and parental upbringing has somehow left that person deficient and thus has led him or her to same-sex attractions. Practitioners often are religious, and gay rights groups have derisively characterized the therapy as an attempt to "pray away the gay."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/State-bans-gay-repair-therapy-for-minors-3906032.php#ixzz280uZ5OKD


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Michael Strickland

 2012/9/30 23:24Profile
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 Re: Beginning Jan 1 in California it will be AGAINST THE LAW to try to turn minors aw

First thing I that came to mind...

Matthew 10:16-23, “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.

“Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes."


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Lordoitagain- thank you for posting.
AMEN, Miccah!

As I read the news I felt defeated and fearful, but being reminded of what God has said and that our weapons are not carnal and our war is not with flesh and blood helps me to keep my eyes of what I see all around, and to set them on the eternal.
Satan has been defeated on the cross and if the LORD is for us who can be against us?

 2012/10/1 0:06Profile









 Re: Beginning Jan 1 in California it will be AGAINST THE LAW to try to turn minors aw

Well, I kind of agree with this law.

I agree in that reparative therapy is no good and it will cause harm. It's an awful place to be. Therapy only worsens the situation.

I've been a Christian all my life, at 45 I still have same sex attraction. It will be with me for the rest of my life. Therapy for me just filled my head with useless knowledge.

For me the best therapy is God. He works with the individual through the ups and downs of life. The in's and out's. God gets at the root of the problem. And MOST importantly, tells me how much He loves me, THAT alone is enough for me to walk the rest of life with my Saviour. That is what homosexuals yearn for the most, to be loved.

I agree with this law only in that therapy just doesn't work, it may for a micro few, but for the majority it fails big time.

 2012/10/1 0:21
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Approved wrote:

"Well, I kind of agree with this law.

I agree in that reparative therapy is no good and it will cause harm. It's an awful place to be. Therapy only worsens the situation.

I've been a Christian all my life, at 45 I still have same sex attraction. It will be with me for the rest of my life. Therapy for me just filled my head with useless knowledge..."





Jesus likened himself to a therapist: Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

I am sure (as usual) that the court used extreme and abusive cases of therapy in order to persuade the courts to pass this law.

Jesus came to call all with same sex attraction to repentance. He came to HEAL people with same sex attraction. Thousands of us have experienced His healing in same sex attraction disorder, but it only comes with an utter awareness that one is deadly, deathly sick.

Jesus loves us enough to bring us to genuine total repentance ... total forsaking of the wickedness. His blood has the POWER to completely cleanse ALL sin whether it is same-sex-attraction, pornography, child molestation ... he can even convert those assassins in Mexico who are murdering innocent people DAILY and cutting their bodies up into little pieces and spreading them on sidewalks. Saul had a habit of helping to murder Christians. Can you picture him saying: "It will be with me for the rest of my life."

Jesus washed and cleansed Saul and changed him to Paul who later wrote:

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


"were" is past tense, brother! Don't swallow the lie that you will be bound to that evil for the rest of your life! BELIEVE in His power to wash, sanctify and justify you, and when the devil tries to turn that old channel on ... well just unhook the cable ... the old man is dead, and the new man lives:

Gál 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


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 2012/10/1 0:48Profile
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This video gives some good therapy on dealing with the issue: http://youtu.be/13RtFyjewtM


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Jesus came to call all with same sex attraction to repentance. He came to HEAL people with same sex attraction. Thousands of us have experienced His healing in same sex attraction disorder, but it only comes with an utter awareness that one is deadly, deathly sick.

I would love to know about these "thousands" you speak of Brother. The people that I know of they either are resisting, struggling or gone back into the sin. I have never met (save yourself) a person who has been actually delivered completely.

Your deliverance and my deliverance are not the same. God did in you a wonderful work and what God is doing in me is the same, but mine has been gradual, and I know why. If I was delivered from this years ago, it would be my character to forget all that God had done and I would have followed my own way, I know myself to be that way. Little at a time is His healing for me. I know homosexuals that have gone through therapy searching for answers, searching for a way out only to fall headlong back into the sin because they don't know how to get out of it. If it wasn't for God's hand upon me right now, I would be back in that as well. The 'feelings' are overwhelming and if there is no outlet, sin is at the door. I understand this overwhelming 'feeling'. As a Christian I have an edge, I have the power of God, but for the millions of homosexuals out there that are trying to understand themselves, it's hell for them. I know of Christian brothers who have fought this for years, got married, settled down only to end up back in this thing. They genuinely fought it, sought help, it's an awful terrible twisting of a man, just terrible.

The thing about talking about this on this forum is that your marked. I regret speaking about my past on this forum, as much as people will say they undertand and love etc.., your still marked as a homosexual, even if your delivered.

I will not speak of this matter on here again. God Bless and thank you for your words and for sharing your heart.

 2012/10/1 2:01









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This law is not about the success or failure of therapy.
This law is about the continued incremental criminalizing of the proclamation of the Gospel.

They came for the therapists and I said nothing cuz it wasn't me.......

 2012/10/1 4:25
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The people that I know of they either are resisting, struggling or gone back into the sin. I have never met (save yourself) a person who has been actually delivered completely.

Your deliverance and my deliverance are not the same. God did in you a wonderful work and what God is doing in me is the same, but mine has been gradual,



If you remember earlier posts of mine on this subject, you should remember that my deliverance was gradual also ... but the main reason that deliverance from ANY sin is gradual is because we FINALLY come to the place where we COMPLETELY believe that deliverance in Christ exists. We finally take Romans 6:6 to heart and totally believe that our old man is and was (past and present) crucified with Christ.

I've never drunk alcohol, nor had the need to be delivered from it, but they tell me that in AA meetings they teach them to say (regardless of how many years they are set free) "I am an alcoholic ...". If we take the world's view of "recovery" from sin and not Christ's view of divine deliverance from sin we will never know what I Cor. 5:17 even means.

A friend of mine was delivered two months ago from alcohol and cigarettes. He was heavily addicted to cigarettes, but now he says that the odor makes him nauseated. Does that mean that he is above being tempted? Of course not! If he is tempted for a split second, should he crumble and say to himself "I'm still bound" ... and give in to following the line of smoke? No! He should immediately resist and rebuke the tempter, and go on considering himself DEAD to that sin ... Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

If we elevate ANY particular sin to "undeliverable" status, we are throwing the gospel in the dirt! We are making the Lion of the tribe of Judah a powerless kitty cat up against "great" power of a particular sin. I choose to believe that I John 1:9 is true for me too. My chains were big, and my filth was deep (for me), but the power of the blood of Christ was and is triumphant in my life, and I refuse to enter again into bondage.


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This law is not about the success or failure of therapy.
This law is about the continued incremental criminalizing of the proclamation of the Gospel.

They came for the therapists and I said nothing cuz it wasn't me.......



Totally agreed ... and for that reason I brought it to the forum. We discuss such news topics with the intent of alarming our hearts to more desperate prayer and action.

OH HOW WE NEED REVIVAL IN OUR LAND! The state that had the famed "Azuza Street Revival" is now closing the doors on freedom to proclaim the gospel.


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This law is about the continued incremental criminalizing of the proclamation of the Gospel.

Agreed!

 2012/10/1 11:28





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