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bible4life
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 need a response to a local newspaper on Bible prophecies

Hi, I was recently reading out of my local newspaper in Lockport, Illinois in the classified section to my suprise someone posted something called failed Bible prophecies or bible prophecies that failed. This what they have



Isaiah 17:1-2

says Damascus will cease to be a city forever.



Isaiah 19: 5-7

says the Nile River will completely dry up and be no more.



Ezekiel 29 :8-12

says Egypt will become desolate and uninhabited for 40 years. Never happenede.



Ezekiel 29: 19-20

says Nebuchadnezzar will conquer Egypt. He didn't



Daniel 11:45

says Antiochus IV would die between Jerusalem and the Mediterranean Sea. But he very unccperatively died in Persia

Can anyone respond and answer theses for me because i would like to write a response in our paper to this man and hopefully they will show my response. I have also asked a brother from biblequery.com, but it always helps to get other responses. Thank you


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John Beechy

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 Re: need a response to a local newspaper on Bible prophecies

All the passages that you have posted except one are yet future end-times prophecies. Even Daniel 11:45. Antiochus Epiphanese was a prefigure of the man who Daniel is seeing. Daniel 11 is about the Anti-Christ ultimately and not about Antiochus. Damascus will be demolished. The Nile will dry up. This probably won't satisfy your critic, but the only way a future prophecy can be proven false is for it not to happen at the time it's supposed to happen. For example, if I say I'm going to have a flat tire tomorrow at noon, you can't say it's a false statement at 10am. You have to wait for the time to come and then see if it happens or not.

Nebuchadnezzar DID invade Egypt. Josephus speaks of it in his writings. A Babylonian chronicle from 567BC also confirms that he invaded Egypt. There is also an inscription on the statue of Nes-hor, governor of southern Egypt under Hophra that confirms that Nebuchadnezzar did indeed invade and plunder Egypt.


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hi, to quote yogi berra:it aint over till its over. be ready to meet Jesus today and forget about it.jimp

 2012/9/18 1:49Profile









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The crux of the Christian message lies at the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Paul says if Christ has not been raised our faith is worthless. If you are led you can respond by asking them to produce the body of Jesus Christ and expose Christianity as a fraud.

I doubt very seriously you will have any takers.

Bearmaster.

 2012/9/18 6:37









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Also Jesus Christ has fulfilled over 300 prophesies in the Old Testament. Challenge the skeptics to prove those false.

Again. I doubt you will have any takers.

Bearnaster.






 2012/9/18 6:40









 Re: need a response to a local newspaper on Bible prophecies

Lies, misquotes and unbelief. God has never missed a prophecy, nor ever will.

Isaiah 17:1-2

says Damascus will cease to be a city forever....
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Firstly, time is not finished yet, but it will be. Then your news paper will have no news, because all news will have ceased, as eternity rushes in.

There may be many scenarios how this could happen, but one of the most likely will be an attack from Israel upon Damascus that could involve nuclear weapons....and remember, Syria has been caught before very close to creating one, and Israel bombed their facility back into the stone-age. [ 2007 ]. So, it ain't over until it's over...and Damascus will be destroyed.

Israel will be surrounded by armies, trying to annihilate her...but God Himself will arise to rescue her, as Jesus returns with wrath.

"Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!

The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.

And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us."

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Isaiah 19: 5-7

..says the Nile River will completely dry up and be no more.

It does not say the Nile will dry up. The prophecy states that "The River" will dry up...which when spoken this way, always refers to the Euphrates. The Nile is always spoken of as the river of Egypt. There are other references about the Euphrates drying up, when the "Armies of the East" invade Israel, at the end of days.
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Ezekiel 29 :8-12

says Egypt will become desolate and uninhabited for 40 years. Never happened.

Oh, but it did happen!

" Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia."

John Wesley comments..
Syene — Boundary between Ethiopia and Egypt; that is, all Egypt from north-east to south-west.

Verse 11
" No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years."

Forty years — These forty years began about the thirtieth year of Jeconiah's captivity, and end with the seventieth year of the captivity, which was the first of Cyrus.

Verse 14
And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom.

Pathros — The southern part of Egypt, in which was the famous city Thebae, known for its hundred gates.

Their habitation — The ancient habitation of their fathers.

A base — A low, tributary, dependent kingdom.

Verse 15
It shall be the basest of the kingdoms; neither shall it exalt itself any more above the nations: for I will diminish them, that they shall no more rule over the nations.

No more rule — Though in the times of the Ptolemeys, it was considerable, yet then, even then it did not rule the nations about her.**********************************






Ezekiel 29: 19-20

says Nebuchadnezzar will conquer Egypt. He didn't.

Oh, but he did.

Read this ancient and respected Historian, Berossus: He says, "that this Babylonian king conquered Egypt , and Syria, and Phoenicia, and Arabia, and exceeded in his exploits all that had reigned before him in Babylon and Chaldaea."
http://www.livius.org/be-bm/berossus/berossus-q02.html

A little after which Berossus subjoins what follows in his History of Ancient Times. I will set down Berossus' own accounts, which are these:

"When Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar, heard that the governor whom he had set over Egypt , and over the parts of Coele-Syria and Phoenicia, had revolted from him, he was not able to bear it any longer; but committing certain parts of his army to his son Nebuchadnezzar, who was then but young, he sent him against the rebel: Nebuchadnezzar joined battle with him, and conquered him, and reduced the country under his dominion again."
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Daniel 11:45

Says Antiochus IV would die between Jerusalem and the Mediterranean Sea. But he very uncooperative died in Persia.


Another lie, and misquote. Nowhere in Daniel does it mention Antiochus, but a future ruler, who commits the abomination that makes desolate. This is obviously referring to the coming Anti-Christ, and I believe it refers to the time he sets himself up in Jerusalem to be worshipped.

For centuries, theologians have surmised the Antiochus IV was this man, as he slaughtered the famous pig at the temple at Jerusalem. He was not, but just similar. This man described in Daniel is yet to come.*******************

 2012/9/18 8:58
bible4life
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BrotherTom and Hulsely i definitely am going to send an email to the paper with your responses if that is okay great responses. The reason i want to respond is that their i don't know possibly thousands of people in Lockport exposed to this paper and i think i have seen enough of the Bible and our faith being told lies about it, I have always felt this great desire to defend the Bible in its truthfulness.


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