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 The Full Redemption upon us!...Prophecy: Mystic Protestants have spoken also.


PROPHECY
by Jane Leade
(A Heavenly Spy)


"There shall be a total and full redemption by Christ. This is a hidden mystery not to be understood without the revelation of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is at hand to reveal the same to all holy seekers and loving inquirers.


The completion of such a redemption is withheld and abstracted by the apocalyptic (or revelation) seals. Wherefore as the Spirit of God shall open up seal after seal, so shall this redemption come to be revealed both particularly and universally. In the gradual opening of the mystery of redemption in Christ doth consist the unsearchable wisdom of God; which may continually reveal new and fresh things to the worthy seeker. In order to which the ark of the Testimony in Heaven shall be opened before the end of this age and the living testimony herein contained shall be unsealed. The presence of the Divine Ark will constitute the life of this Virgin Church, and wherever this body is, there must the ark of necessity be.


The unsealing of the Living Testimony within the Ark of God must begin the promulgation of the everlasting gospel of the kingdom. The proclamation of the Testimony will be as the sounding of a trumpet of alarm to the nations of professed Christendom. Authority shall be given by Christ to the putting an end to all controversies concerning the true church that is born of the New Jerusalem mother. This decision will be the actual sealing of the body of Christ with the name (or Authority) of God, giving them a commission to act by the same.


This New Name (or Authority) will distinguish them from the seven thousand names of Babylon. The election and preparation of this Virgin Church is to be after a secret and hidden manner. As David in his ministry was chosen and anointed by the prophet of the Lord, yet was not admitted to the outward profession of the Kingdom for a considerable time afterward, of the stem of David a Virgin Church, which hath known nothing of a man or human constitution, is to be born and it will require some time for it to get out of the minority and arrive at full and mature age.


The birth of this Virgin Church was typified by St. John's vision where the great wonder appeared in heaven, bringing forth her first born that was caught up to the throne of God (or identified with the Authority of God). For as a virgin woman brought forth Christ after the flesh, so shall a Virgin Church bring forth the first born after the Spirit who shall be endowed with the seven spirits of God. This church so brought forth and sealed with the mark of Divine Authority will have no bonds or impositions, but the holy unction among these new born spirits will be all and all.


There is not at this day (1619) visible upon the earth such a church, all profession being found light when weighed in the balances. Therefore they are rejected by the Supreme Judge. Which rejection will be for this cause, that out of them may come a new and glorious church. Then shall the glory of God and the Lamb so rest upon this typical tabernacle so that it shall be called the Tabernacle of Wisdom, and though it is not now known in visibility, yet it shall be seen as coming out of the wilderness within a short time; then it will go on to multiply and propagate itself universally, not only to the number of the first born (144,000) but also to the remnant of the seed, against whom the Dragon will make war continually.


Wherefore, the spirit of David shall revive in this blossoming root. These will have might given them to overcome the Dragon and his angels, even as David overcame Goliath and the Philistine army. This will be the standing up of the great prince Michael, and will be as the appearance of Moses against Pharaoh, in order that the chosen seed may be brought out of hard servitude.


Egypt does figure this servile creation under which Abraham's seed groans, but a prophet, and the most prophetical generation, will the Most High raise up who shall deliver His people by the force of spiritual arms. For which there must be certain head powers to bear the first office, who are to be persons in favor with God, whose dread and fear shall fall on all nations, visible and invisible, because of the mighty acting power of the Holy Spirit which shall rest upon them. For Christ shall appear in some chosen vessels to bring into the Promised Land, the New Creation state.


Thus, Moses, Joshua, and Aaron may be considered types of some upon whom the same Spirit will come, yet in greater proportion. Whereby they shall make way for the ransomed of the Lord to return to Mt. Zion, but none shall stand under God but those who have become "tried" stones after the pattern and similitude of Christ. This will be fiery trial through which a very few will be able to pass or bear up in it. Whereby the waiters for this visible breaking forth are strictly charged to hold fast, and wait together in the unity of Pure Love. This trial will be of absolute necessity to all for the clearing away of all remaining infirmities of the natural mind, and the burning of all hay, wood, and stubble. For nothing must remain in the fire, for as a refiner shall He purify the sons of the kingdom.


There will be some who will be fully redeemed being clothed upon with a priestly garment after the Melchizedek order. This will qualify them for governing Authority. Therefore it is required on their part to suffer the Spirit of burning, and the fanning of the Fiery Breath searching every part within them until they arrive at a Fixed Body from whence the wonders are to flow out.


Upon this body will be the fixation of the Urim and Thummim that are the portion of the Melchizedek priesthood whose descent is not counted in the genealogy of that creation which is under the fall but in another genealogy which is a New Creation. Hence these priests will have a deep inward search and divine sight into secret things of Deity, will be able to prophesy in a clear ground; not darkly and enigmatically, for they will know what is couched in the first originality of all beings, in the eternal anti-type of nature, and will be able to bring them forth according to the divine counsel and ordination.


The Lord sweareth in truth and righteousness that from Abraham's line, according to the Spirit, there shall arise a Holy Priesthood. Abraham and Sarah were a type of that which would be produced and manifested in the last age. The mighty Spirit of Cyrus is appointed to lay the foundation of this third temple and support it in the building.

There are characteristics and marks whereby the pure Virgin Church shall be known and distinguished from all others and whereby the unction and true sound of the Holy Spirit shall be discerned from all others that are low, false and counterfeit. There must be a manifestation of the Spirit whereby to edify and raise up this Church, whereby bringing heaven down upon the earth and representing here the New Jerusalem state in order to which spirits are thus begotten and born of God, ascend to New Jerusalem above where their Head in majesty doth reign.


None but those who have so ascended and received of His glory can condescend and communicate the same, being thereby His representatives on the earth and subordinate priests under Him now. He that has ascended and glorified has made Himself, as it were, our Debtor. Consequently, He will not be wanting in qualifying and furnishing certain high and principal instruments who shall be most humble and as little and as regarded as David was, who He will dignify with honor and priestly sovereignty for drawing to them the scattered flocks and gathering them into one fold out of all nations.


Therefore, there should be a holy imulation and ambition stirred up among the bands of believers, that they may be of the first fruits unto Him that is risen from the dead and so be made principle agents for Him and with Him, that they may be, if possible, of the number of the first born of the New Jerusalem Mother. All true waiters of His Kingdom in Spirit, under whatsoever profession they may be, ought to be numbered among the virgin spirits to whom this message appertains.

"Be watchful and quicken your pace"...Jane Leade..1679

http://brideinthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/03/1679-prophecy.html#comment-form

 2012/9/11 4:14
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 Re: The Full Redemption upon us!...Prophecy: Mystic Protestants have spoken also.

Wonderful post! For those who "have an ear to hear" this will be of the highest spiritual value.


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 2012/9/11 9:03Profile
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I believe that the renewed interest in the Protestant mystics like Jane Lead, Jacob Boehme, William Law, John Pordage, etc., is a sign of coming spiritual renewal. Lollipop theology is beginning to gall people and they are looking for something with substance.

http://janelead.org
http://jacobboehmeonline.com

EDIT: Bad links fixed


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It's true there is a renewed interest in christian mystics but the outcome of that interest usually is very shallow and without genuine biblical holiness.

This kind of mysticism that focuses on methods and techniques for example it's so void of the biblical message of sound doctrine that to me its a christianization of eastern philosophy or religion. These trends or so called christian mystical movements, pretend to be successors of true christian mystics throughout the church history.

By the way when I talk of christian mystic, I dont mean someone who sees visions, hears audible voices, has extraordinary revelations etc. The devil appearing like an angle of light, has deceived many honest seekers who lack spiritual discernment. To me a true christian mystic is someone who is tatally abandoned to God (not to some superior spirit) to do his will, someone who who has a very intimate and deep relationship with Jesus Christ and a sound faith in the Word of God.

New age movements, pseudo-christian mysticism, mystery of eastern religions, I believe will be a part of the unifying new world religion and the coming deception.

Albert Enstein I think was right when he said, "The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion which based on experience, which refuses dogmatic. If there's any religion that would cope the scientific needs it will be
Buddhism...."

Think about the tendency today against the "refusal of dogmatics" (in other words of sound doctrine). Emergent evangelical movement, new age movements and pseudo-mystical movement of chatholicism, have one thing is common: the tendecy to downplay sound doctrine or even to deny it and to open the door to unsanctified experiences or so called spirituality.


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Redi

 2012/9/11 17:21Profile









 John the Revelator could be called a mystic! The symbollic strand of Heaven.

"Think about the tendency today against the "refusal of dogmatics" (in other words of sound doctrine). Emergent evangelical movement, new age movements and pseudo-mystical movement of Catholicism, have one thing is common: the tendency to downplay sound doctrine or even to deny it and to open the door to unsanctified experiences or so called spirituality."...elected

Wow! You have saideth a mouthful!

The nail has been struck!

 2012/9/11 17:45
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 Re: John the Revelator could be called a mystic! The symbollic strand of Heaven.

"Think about the tendency today against the "refusal of dogmatics" (in other words of sound doctrine). Emergent evangelical movement, new age movements and pseudo-mystical movement of Catholicism, have one thing is common: the tendency to downplay sound doctrine or even to deny it and to open the door to unsanctified experiences or so called spirituality."

The three movements you mention do in fact teach people techniques for cultivating "mystical experiences," something no responsible spiritual leader would do, since such methods invariably lead to experiences that are not mystical or spiritual but sensual. But the old Protestant mystics we're talking about did nothing of the kind. All of their writings are doctrinal.

Aristotle said that the Golden Mean of Virtue rests between two opposing errors. That's not in the Bible, but I wish it was - it's so true! On the one side are people who pursue exciting, ravishing experiences without excercising any discernment at all; on the other side are the dogmatists who think that the Almighty is primarily concerned with theological formulations and that correct doctrinal opinionation is synonymous with saving faith. (I was exposed to the latter growing up in the Lutheran Church.) And while experiences-seekers often dismiss sound doctrine as "dogma," it is also true that religionists often use "sound doctrine" as a euphemism for dead dogma.

But thank you, elected, for reminding us of the necessity to exercise discernment as we press forward to the fulness of the Spirit.


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 Re: The Full Redemption upon us!...Prophecy: Mystic Protestants have spoken also.

I have to say that I read some of the blog link and it didn't tell me anything practical. It doesn't get my excited inside because there is nothing to grab on to and say YES, a Prophet or God or a seer has been revealed.

John


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"I have to say that I read some of the blog link and it didn't tell me anything practical. It doesn't get my excited inside because there is nothing to grab on to and say YES, a Prophet or God or a seer has been revealed."DEADn

Of course, it was not my motive to reveal myself as a prophet or a seer, but to reveal relevant words, such as this one from Jane Leade that really inspired me.

All prophecy must be judged, and the impartation of it ought to be edifying, but never controlling. Frankly, I am glad that you used your discernment; this is a healthy thing. If one is blessed, amen, if one is not, then God is still alive.

As far as the prophetic is concerned, it does not always impart a practical course, but an inspirational foundation to believe. Consider the Book of Revelation.....not a lot of practical application...but maybe the most important Word in the prophetic whole in all of the bible.

 2012/9/12 22:32
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Hi Wayneman:

"The three movements you mention do in fact teach people techniques for cultivating "mystical experiences," something no responsible spiritual leader would do, since such methods invariably lead to experiences that are not mystical or spiritual but sensual. But the old Protestant mystics we're talking about did nothing of the kind. All of their writings are doctrinal."


I dont no much about protestant mystics like Jacob Boeheme or Jean Lead. I think they were honest christians who reacted to the formality and dead orthodoxy of protestant churches but as history shows us, often christians go to the other extreme of over-emphasising the Spirit to the neglect or under-emphasizing the Word.

Talking about sound doctrine, the christian mystics often had some theological errors but on the other side they experienced deep works of the Spirit and illuminations on spiritual topics that makes most of the modern christians so shallow compared to the depth of their understanding of Christ.


The history of christianity has been characterized by two things, starting with the post-apostolic early church.
The Orthodox christians in the East emphasized more the experiential knowledge of God through the Spirit and the Catholics of the West the intellectual understanding of God through the Word.

At least this was evident in the middle ages when Catholics accepted Augustinian theology as their authoritative doctrine. Thomas Aquinas and the scholastics later on contributed to refining Catholic theology to what its today. I say this just to prove that, they insisted much on knowing or understanding God thru mind or reason.

On the other side, Eastern Orthodox went to the other extreme during middle ages to emphasize, that it is only through the heart that we can know God and only those who have such a mystical experience of Him in their hearts can really be true theologians. This is true but they often underestimated the faculties of the mind and this way they were subject to the dangers of unsanctified mysticism.

These tendencies have been also reflected in different protenstant denominations historically. Puritans were known for their zeal and emphases on sound doctrine and the Word of God. The Methodist a century later for their emphases on experiential knowledge of Christ and holiness.

Paul in his letters urged early christians not only to be filled with the Spirit but that the word of God may dwell richly in their hearts. He knew the importance of having a biblical balance of Spirit and the Word, because emphasizing the Spirit to the neglect of the Word leads to fanatism and emphasizing the Word to the neglect of the Spirit leads to suffocating orthodoxy (that has know life in it).

In the 20th century fundamentalism and evangelicalism has been characterized by the same error of emphasizing one to the neglect of the other. It seems like God will bring not only a great worldwide revival(I dont mean that in a loose sense to apostate christianity) to awaken his Church or his chosen ones but bring with it a spiritual enlightenment of apostolic doctrine.

The overcoming church of the last days will go thru fires of persecution and the Spirit of prophecy and holiness, of wisdome and revelation shall be poured on her, so to recover and revive apostolic christianity.

Sorry it seems like I went beyond the subject but my point is that the overcoming church of the tribulation to come will be characterized by a deep and mystical knowledge of Christ, as well as by a profound and sound orthodox understanding of the doctrines of grace.

Why do I believe that? because I know from the Bible that Christ in his second coming will come for his holy Bride without spots or wrinkles. He will come for they who keep the word of his testimony and are washed in his blood, who live and walk in the Spirit.


Blessings,

Redi


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Great thoughts Redi!

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