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Trekker
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 The most lost generation EVER

After witnessing again tonight and hearing AGAIN from yet another shockingly hard-hearted person how the Bible is supposedly "all fiction" and absolutely NOTHING i said could make any difference, i must conclude that this generation is thee most hopeless EVER. I think i have heard it ALL now. Every last excuse, every last accusation and diatribe. And it is crystal clear that Americans do not want Christ, no matter what. The hearts of this people have turned to STONE. It is like bashing my head against a brick wall talking to these people. Many of them even contradict their own selves. I have come to hate witnessing. It is tiresome. It is offensive to hear the awful things they say. They never run out of excuses for rejecting Christ, yet any of the pagan "gods" will do.
I have tolerated the most deplorable things and shown nothing but kindness, friendship, and love/charity to them. When the bomb or whatever hits this country, whatever finally comes, i can't feel no pity. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

 2012/7/31 2:40Profile
proudpapa
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 Re: The most lost generation EVER

Hey trekker good thread. May I ask what is in your heart when you witness??

An aprouch that worked well once with a more educated man then myself, was I looked His way and I said something of the effect, I do not care How intelegent of an argument you have against there being a God, You know that there is A God. To my suprise he replied something of the effect I guess you are right I guess I trully do know there is a God.

edit: the man was claiming to me at the time that the athiest where just smarter, had better arguments than the christians so he was leaning at being an athiest

Edit: I reworded for accuracy, When I reread what I wrote I relized I did not remeber for sure the exact words but the thoughts so I changed to /something of the effect/ and eye to way

 2012/7/31 2:49Profile
Trekker
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What is in my heart? I think what is in my heart is a desire for the person to become saved. Compassion. That is what i feel. But i am growing SO tired of all the arguments and excuses. Surely i have heard them all by now? I mean, when i was young, i eagerly listened to what anyone had to tell me about Jesus, and i ASKED QUESTIONS. Even when i was a college student i wanted to hear it, and even after college as a lost, searching person. But these people don't seem to be searching (for anything except sex of course) these days.
This generation doesn't ask questions, they have already made up their minds. They don't want anything to threaten their right to fornicate, their right to do as they please at all times, whatever. I mean, they say some of the most absurd and astonishing things, they spout total lies about Christ and about the Bible and about Christianity, and so forth. And often they also sound so bitter about it. I don't see any hope for this generation.

 2012/7/31 3:28Profile
enid
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Trekker,

Can't help but say, I see what you see. You could pray and fast for a week, and go out and, perhaps, still see the same reaction.

Back in the 80's and 90's, there was more interaction with people. Even if they ended up rejecting Christ, the hostility to the gospel was nothing like it is now.

Scripture tells us in Romans, that God gives people over to a reprobate or debased mind.

Think that can't happen en masse?

I could say more, but that's it for now.

Take care.

God bless.

 2012/7/31 5:05Profile
Trekker
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QUOTE: " Even if they ended up rejecting Christ, the hostility to the gospel was nothing like it is now.
Scripture tells us in Romans, that God gives people over to a reprobate or debased mind."==ENID



Yes, yes that is it exactly. It is frightening. If they have been "given over" should i even continue to try? Am i not just wasting my time and breath? Making a fool of myself?
Yes, there is so much hostility, and yes, they are all reprobate.

Let me tell you something...

One night a few years ago i was out walking after dark, cuz it used to be that i would get so lonely and restless i would just wander the streets at night. One night on my walk a man was following me and continued to follow me after calling from across the street to ask me the time. After a while and long story short he propositioned me for sex! Turns out he had been on his way to the local porn/sex shop but it was closed before he could walk there, so he propositioned me! At that point i said to myself or to God, silently in my head,'Alright, that's it, i am telling this man about Jesus' and for the next 2 hours we stood there face to face in the dark as i told him the Gospel and he brought up every stupid argument he could think of, even contradicting his own self multiple times and ways. He was younger than me, and due to go into the navy in 3 months time. He seemed to sincerely listen to what i had to say at times though. But it is just another example of how depraved this generation is. Twenty to twenty five years ago in this town no one would have propositioned me for sex and murder was almost unheard of here, contrary to today we now have at least one or more murders every year it seems, as well as home invasions, pharmacy robberies, etc. I was born and raised here and i can see the difference that the younger generation cannot. This generation is the most lost, the most depraved ever.

 2012/7/31 5:36Profile
enid
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As it is, we should still witness and warn people. Ungodly they are, but Jesus told us to go and preach the gospel.

We need to be obedient to God, regardless of their reaction.

I remember seeing a street preacher about 3 or 4 years ago.
Basically, no one was listening, they just walked on by.

I stopped to speak to him. During the ccourse of the conversation he said, we just preach and obey God, whether people listen or not.

And so we should. We just need to be faithful to God and His word.

We can only warn, the rest is up to God, for only He can reach their hearts.

God bless.

 2012/7/31 5:51Profile
jimp
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hi, there are more lost people on the earth today and they are our responsibility to preach the good news to. millions are hearing the gospel of Jesus and are repenting and becoming saved around the world. i have been suffocating under the negativity of some folks here on s i ... this year our church baptizes over 500 in one weekend. the home groups are ministering to their areas and bring people to the Lord in record numbers and we are just one church of many great churhes in the area. thousand of churches are being started around the world every few months. this year my 77 yearold brother called me and told me how he just got saved. answers to prayer are wonerfully evident... my oldest son and his wife and 3 children and 2 grandchildren came to visit me and told me about how they wer all saved and filled with the Holy Spirit and the list goes on.Jesus is still the head of His church and the gates of hell will not prevail against her. get up and go love someone enough to smile and tell them about the joy of your salvation.they will not reject a genuine, loving witness.they might argue but will return kindness with kindness.Jesus is the only one who can save them and they might reject Him now but that is not your problem.jimp

 2012/7/31 6:35Profile
roadsign
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This generation doesn't ask questions, they have already made up their minds.

This is far from the truth! Deep questions about God and about life purpose and meaning are burning on hearts today – certainly our young folk. Our problem is that we don’t know how to listen, and don’t care to - or at least they assume. And let’s admit, we’d rather give the answers than learn how to invite the questions. We fail to see what lies underneath all the facades with which this generation surround itself – something our generation trained them to do quite well.


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They don't want anything to threaten their right to fornicate, their right to do as they please at all times, whatever. I mean, they say some of the most absurd and astonishing things, they spout total lies about Christ and about the Bible and about Christianity, and so forth. And often they also sound so bitter about it.



It seems to be that a firm resolve on the matter is more on your own part. Don’t be fooled by these tough-looking exteriors!

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I don't see any hope for this generation.



I’m sorry to read this. Yet, I can relate. Our challenge is to look at the world through the eyes of faith. God is faithful to his purposes and plans for humanity. And to the extent that we have hope IN GOD, it will be evident to those who are seeking. And we will fulfill our own calling – to be a light of hope.

Perhaps this little reading will nudge you beyond your surface perspectives:

“Please Hear What I am Not Saying”
http://www.quiteexcellent.com/thewayback.net/articles/pleasehearwhatiam.htm


Diane


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 2012/7/31 9:49Profile
jimur
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I don't think I could call this the most lost generation ever. However society here in the U.S. is without doubt the most anti Christian minded of any time in my lifetime. I find the intensity of opposition very disturbing and alarming to say the least. Witnessing and street preaching is a dangerous venture throughout the U.S. and is becoming more so daily. The hate directed towards Christians witnessing is near unbelievable. This same group yells "tolerance" to those outside Christianity. Go to one of the current on line news articles, make a post and include a reference to Christ, bible, God, etc. and read the replies you get. The attacks bring to my mind a picture from Lot's front door or the fury with which Christ and some of the apostles were confronted. Like many others, I wonder in amazement just how bad things were prior to Noah's flood and how bad will it be in the not too distant future. Oddly, I can't get the opening lines of Dickens' "Tale of Two Cities" out of my mind. For me, those words seem to take on an eerie prophetic nature descriptive of today's modern times.

As Christians we should not be surprised as scripture tells us what is to come to pass. In this sense, these are very enlightening, interesting and exciting times. Think about it. We are witnessing and living actual events which scripture tells us must and will come. Today, we are simply the unnamed characters in many of those foretold events. Perhaps our concern should be more on the overall reaction of the "Church". What compromises will it make in an attempt to find new ways to reach people? We've seen such compromise taking place for years in music, method,
doctrinal change, political correctness, sugar coating of God's word, pluralism, etc. All of which have been slowly creeping into the "Church" just as the "wolves in sheep clothing" of the apostolic and/or early Church Age.

Today many who are more founded and knowledgeable in bible teachings rather than sharing, supporting, and teaching other Christians within the Church, have chosen to remove themselves and deny offering light, which is sadly more evidence of foretold apostasy. This only serves to weaken the very thing they claim to represent while the Church suffers from a distinct lack of qualified teachers and leaders. Yet these same people will be among the first and loudest to claim and accuse the Church of failing. They seem to prefer being a church unto themselves. IMHO, scripture has names for these people.

I also maintain an unpopular opinion that we apply more time and energy to theology than we do to simplicity of scripture itself and in so doing

often become a stumbling block for many. Don't get me wrong. I have a huge interest in theology, but I'm not willing to replace my first love with more controversial theological ideas

I'm sure some will appreciate I'm getting a little winded now so I'll jump off this band wagon. :)

 2012/7/31 11:13Profile
Blayne
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 Re: The most lost generation EVER

Hi! 'Trekker'

I read your comments with much interest.
Ummm, in many respects, your observations are both sad and discouragingly true.

I have the suspicion that much of our supposed evangelism remains ineffectual; not so much because of the increasing darkness in the world, but because of our misrepresenting the Gospel message itself.

For instance:
Jesus did not come into the world to tell us how to live. Rather, He came into the world to give us an example of the potential of every human being.
Jesus did not come into the world to tell us about how depraved we are; nor to reveal man's sinful darkness.
Rather, He came to triumph over the darkness so that we, being "delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear".
Jesus came into the world with a wonderful secret to reveal! Not only has Jesus ransomed every ruined temple of God, He also restores the full value of the temple too. And, much more! He desires to dwell in our temple.

Do you see what I'm meaning to say?
Sometimes we can be found speaking out from under our own miscontrued thinking and ascribe things to our gospel which do not belong. At other times, our message fails to adequately speak of Jesus being crowned with honor and glory because we may have failed to possess the certainty about it for ourselves.

Clearly, our Bible prophesied about such a time as you describe.
And, what is the promise given to us for the time which is now upon us?
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come", (Matthew 24:14).

So it is, that if we wish our evangelistic efforts to bear fruit in this day and hour of increasing opposition and blindness, we need to be preaching the gospel OF Jesus and not merely the gospel ABOUT Jesus.
We need to be found preaching the gospel of the kingdom.

 2012/7/31 12:52Profile





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