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pilgrim777 Member
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| How To Know You Are Being Perfected in Love and You Are In Him | | If we are not being perfected in love, then we are not being perfected in anything.
These two verses tell us how we know that we are IN HIM and that we are being PERFECTED IN LOVE.
We are being perfected in love 1) if we love one another and 2) if we keep His word.
1Jn_2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn_4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
Both verses tell us how we can know that we are IN HIM and both tell us how we can know that we are being perfected in LOVE.
What does it mean if we are not loving one another or keeping His word?
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2012/7/10 0:47 | Profile |
Hero_Sky Member
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| Re: How To Know You Are Being Perfected in Love and You Are In Him | | Maybe someone that isn't being a hypocrite, and doing all the thing that Jesus commands (in public and private life, through thoughts and actions)John 15:10 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Fathers commands and remain in his love.
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2012/7/12 14:04 | Profile |
IssacharSon Member
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| Re: | | Hard Question to Answer. |
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2012/7/13 13:29 | Profile |
learn Member
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| Re: How To Know You Are Being Perfected in Love and You Are In Him | | [Quote : What does it mean if we are not loving one another or keeping His word? ]
It means we are in sin. When we choose to follow our flesh instead of His spirit, we are sinning against God. There is nothing good that dwells in our flesh.
However, the only way for us to stop sinning is to turn our lives over to God. We cannot change our lives, only God can. (PS : I'm not talking about sinless perfection which I do not believe in)
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2012/7/13 16:03 | Profile |
| Re: | | What does it mean if we are not loving one another or keeping His word?
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It means that we are not crucified - we are not dead to sin. On the contrary, if we love our neighbour and keep His word, we are perfect, that is, we are as God intended us to be and can restore us to, if we are willing to pay the price.
Scripture is black and white, and sinless perfection has the answers to questions like these, plainly and simply. |
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2012/7/13 16:38 | |
learn Member
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| Re: | | Krautfrau, I'm really curious. Appreciate your reply. Do you consider yourself to be better/more holy than 1) Peter 2) John 3) King David 6) King Solomon 7) Prophet Isaiah, Jeremiah 9) Abraham 10)Jacob 11) Greg Gordon (sermonindex admin here) 12) All the other posters here on sermonindex
Thanks
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2012/7/13 17:32 | Profile |
| Re: | | learn
I consider that 1 - 10 became perfect, sometimes after great sins. 11 and 12 I do not consider perfect because they say they do still sin perhaps unintentionally and do not accept scriptural perfection. Myself, I consider to be nothing particularly since I have know perfection in the past.
But I guess you are asking how would I see myself if I was perfect. I would still consider myself chief of sinners because it is all His righteousness. |
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2012/7/13 17:44 | |
Elibeth Member
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| Re: How To Know You Are Being Perfected in Love and You Are In Him | | pilgrim,
You asked,
" what does it mean if we are not loving one another or keeping His Word ?"
I would say,..that we are missing the mark,...and it is what goes on Inside of that narrow gate,..It is the kingdom life,...the way of the King.... The image of Jesus.
There is a HIGH CALLING in God, as Paul said,....and we just must love the Lord more,...and I believe that must be with all our heart, soul,mind,strength,......that being our goal,and what we are reaching for.
He MUST INCREASE and we DECREASE.
When He moves / teaches us,..keeping His Words and not throwing His Words to the ground,keeping our words.
I loved your post,...it is sobbering and it causes me / us to think .
Thank you, elizabeth |
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2012/7/13 17:50 | Profile |
learn Member
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| Re: | | [by krautfrau on 2012/7/13 14:44:37
But I guess you are asking how would I see myself if I was perfect. I would still consider myself chief of sinners because it is all His righteousness]
I am confused. I thought you mentioned in the other thread that you have only fallen from sinless perfection twice and right now you are sinless. Or are you now currently in sin again? Thanks _________________ geraldine
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2012/7/13 19:06 | Profile |
| Re: | | I am not consciously sinning but I have lost the assurrance in my heart and I am not seeing daily miracles. |
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