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 The Doctrine of NON-RESISTANCE by Harry Bethel

In view of the upcoming SI Simulcast on "The Church and Coming Persecution", I thought it would be good to revisit the NT doctrine on Non-Resistance as laid out by Jesus and the Apostles.

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There are only a few New Testament commandments about which Jesus warned that whoever breaks them and teaches others to do so would be called least in the kingdom of heaven.

Our Lord said, "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Mt. 5:19).

What are these commandments? Some of them are clear commandments concerning non-resistance: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain...Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you...For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? (Mt. 5:38-46)."

Many Christians, including church leaders, ignore these commands and Jesus' warning to not break them or teach others to break them. In these last days of apostasy we are like God's people spoken of in the book of Judges when "every man did that which was right in his own eyes." Many Dispensationalists rationalize and say that was the sermon on the mount and does not apply to us. Let God be true, but every man a liar (Rm. 3:4).

The apostle Paul said that the armor of God (in this dispensation) is "truth," "righteousness, "the gospel of peace," "faith," salvation," and "the word of God" (Eph. 6:14-17). Inspired by the Spirit of Christ, Paul wrote, "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal..." (2 Cor. 10:3-4). In other words Paul is saying that though we live in the world we do not wage war as the world does. "Recompense to no man evil for evil...avenge not yourselves, but overcome evil with good" (Rm. 12:17-21). And in Ephesians 6:12 he said, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood."

Most Christians today do not accept the New Testament doctrine of non-resistance. Many refuse to see the clear teachings on this matter, or if they do see this truth they do not apply it to their lives. Under the Old Covenant God's people were not non-resistant to their enemies. But under the New Covenant we have a much higher calling than the Old Testament saints.

The term "non-resistance" comes from the words of Jesus when He commanded, "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil" (Mt. 5:39). The context clearly shows that our Lord is speaking of not resisting an evil person. This in no way means that we are not to resist the temptations to sin, because, of course, all of Scripture is against that and can be summed up in the inspired words of James, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you" (James 4:7).

Scriptural non-resistance is not pacifism. Worldly pacifists primarily oppose war but will march, protest, picket, and obstruct the flow of pedestrian traffic, etc. A pacifist, while opposing war, would not necessarily abstain from going to court against a neighbor or defending himself or his property if attacked by a robber, for example.

In the Old Dispensation God at times commanded His people to kill their enemies. The calling of those saints certainly did not include non-resistance as it does under the New (and better) Covenant.

Jesus and His earthly ministry was the epitome of non-resistance, even submitting to suffering and death of the cross from which He could have delivered Himself by calling thousands of angels (Mt. 26:53). When the men came to arrest Jesus, Peter wielded his sword and cut off a man's ear. Jesus rebuked Peter and said, "They that take the sword shall perish with the sword" (Mt. 26:52). Later, Jesus told Pilate "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight..." (Jn. 18:36).

Jesus' kingdom still is not of this world and it is only the disobedient servants of His that fight, whether in personal combat or dropping an atomic bomb on thousands of men, women, and children.

Jesus and the disciples were traveling and planning to stay in a village of the Samaritans, but they were not welcomed. James and John said, 'Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of" (Lk. 9:51-55). Many professing Christians today do not know what manner of spirit they are of.

Many Christians say, "Well, if a robber comes into my house and tries to take off my stuff, am I supposed to just stand there and let him?" The answer is, Only if you want to obey the commandments of Jesus. Christians will often dream up some hypothetical situation in order to try to make the command of God of no effect. In the book of Luke is recorded more of Jesus' words on the subject: "And him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again" (6:29b-30).

Jesus said, "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal...for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also" (Mt. 6:19-21).

God is sovereign. Ask him to protect you and your family with His holy angels. No one can even touch you or your family or your possessions without God's knowledge and Him allowing it.

Some would say, But what about going to war to defend this country and democracy? The simple answer is that our citizenship is in heaven. We are (or should be) merely sojourners---pilgrims and strangers. Could you imagine yourself being like Jesus and at the same time leveling rifle sights between the eyes of a Russian soldier who is also a Christian brother and blowing his brains out?

And concerning democracy, the political environment in which God places us is of little eternal consequence. As citizens of heaven it is not our calling to defend any particular political ideology.

The end result of democracy, which is rule by the people, is the right for women to kill their unborn children, the right to publish and distribute pornographic literature, the right to broadcast sensuous and immoral acts on television, the right for homosexuals to teach in the public schools and parade down the middle of the street (with a government-issued permit) carrying placards and flaunting their sin, ad nauseam. (Please read article titled Democracy---A Scriptural Perspective.)

Peter, inspired by the Spirit of Christ, wrote, "For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow His steps...who, when He was reviled, reviled not again; when He suffered, He threatened not; but committed himself to Him that judgeth righteously" (1 Pet. 2:21-23).

Shortly before He was crucified, the command of Jesus to His disciples to get a sword had to be done to fulfill the Old Testament prophecy that Jesus was numbered with transgressors. Jesus was falsely accused of many things including Him being a transgressor. All Old Testament prophecy was, or will be, fulfilled to the very letter.

In Isaiah 53:12 the prophecy was that Jesus would be numbered with transgressors (plural). Only two of the disciples had swords which was enough to make it more than one transgressor, that is, transgressors in the sight of the Jews who falsely accused Jesus of many things. There was no need to have all the disciples to obtain a sword. When the disciples told Jesus, "Lord, look, here are two swords" He told them that that was enough. (Two disciples with one sword each, made it enough to fulfill the plural nature of the prophecy.)

If Jesus was teaching something different concerning non-resistance He would have ordered all the disciples to obtain a sword. But this was not at all what Jesus was doing. In fact, shortly after that when the multitude came, Peter, who was one of the two who had a sword, cut off the right ear of the slave of the high priest. Jesus strongly rebuked Peter and said, "Stop! No more of this" (Lk. 22:51). Also, see John 18:10. Then Jesus healed the slave's ear. Concerning the same account, in Matthew 26:52 it is recorded that Jesus said to Peter, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword" (NASB).

Later, recorded in the Revelation, the message is also clear---"if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints" (13:10 NASB).

Will you be one of those who are called least in the kingdom of heaven? My hope is that just the opposite will be true. Jesus said whosoever shall do and teach these commandments, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. But the real test is, do you love Jesus enough to obey Him in everything including the commandment to be non-resistant? Jesus said, "If ye love Me, keep my commandments...He that loveth Me not keepeth not My sayings." (Jn. 14:15, 24).

Pilgrim

 2012/6/28 14:52Profile
brothagary
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 Re: The Doctrine of NON-RESISTANCE by Harry Bethel

it is defentily a hard one pilgrim

i believe we need to turn the cheek

but what if my wife is attacked

or ilttle girl walking passd my house

as gentile as what i am ,,i still feel the need to protect my wife and the inocent ,,not out of spite or hate ,but out of love ,, i probale would use my voice so scare and use ahtority in a serious stern look first

but what about all the inocent children and woman in our country mmwhat if a fourin country invaided ,,and raped and piiliged our fellow human ,,are we all not to protect the inocent ,,,what about cournelious wass he a soilder did god baptise him with the spirit becasu he was righeous and feared god


im not saying all christans are called to protect the ppeople in the land we live in ,,but surly some are

many poeple believe if gods people repent and seeks gods face ,he will heal there land ,,,how is it posable for god to do that if god doesnt protect the land ,with people he ordainds ,,,,iiknow the bible teaches all athoritys are ordaind by god ,even the unbeliveng romons armies ,,,but surly some christian man are called to give up there lifes for the sake of god healing and protecting our lands

what abut christan police are there not ordainde by god to keep the peace and uphold the law ,,so we can as christans minister in peace and evengesise ,in the great comisions

brother im in much argreementwe should be not resent turn the other cheak ,it is my goal in life ,,let atheif take my belonings with out me wanting anything bake due to fleshy out burst and attacment

i my self am not called to fight for peace to remain in my land ,,but others christans have been called


back in the old days of the first awakning and the seconed

there were many christans in amreciaca, and ingland ,what if they all decicde to be quakers ,,would not the counrty be invaided and taken my evil people by advantage

but god promised to heal the lands that were givern over to the holy spirit,,he did that to america in the early days ,,it was and obvious blessing upon the christans there ,,

did cornilious stop being a a solider becasue he was bapitsed ,,,i dont think he did ,he may have become and even greter solder

john the batise layed the foundation of repentance and prepared the way for the lord ,,was what he said an utter conradiction ,,when he spoke to the solders and exorted them to work for only here wages and do not evil


brother it is a tough subject ,,but isee love ing our nabour as being willing to lay our life down for them ,and protect them ,if we feel truly called to do it

im not i thank god ,,and but thank god he has givern my country australia .peace ,,to be able to live a quite and peace ful life ,,,,,paul said pray for the that

i know it i changeg and the he are in the last mitutes andthe last ours ,,and we will more then likly get persacuted for our faith ,,and as christans ,,we must not resist an evil man in that contex ,,and be christ like

i think god has a cllling for all his children ,,as long as we are allways will to follow his call where ever he may led us

we maust allways be readay to be beaten for our faith and die ,,,,but to protect our nebour form down right evil ,if we feel called ,,and show no fear but be bold in what we are called to do


blessings to you brother blessings

 2012/6/28 15:40Profile
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but what about all the inocent children and woman in our country mmwhat if a fourin country invaided ,,and raped and piiliged our fellow human ,,are we all not to protect the inocent
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brothagary, I appreciate your concern for the helpless, most notably the women and children.

Unfortunately, history has proven that men are unable many times to prevent this from happening. The men are killed first or disabled - gotten out of the way - then they will rape the helpless.

Brother, God is able to protect any helpless person far better then any other human, including your husband. I prefer to trust the LORD. In doing so I do not fear for my personal safety. If I do experience fear, I will pray, knowing there will be precautions I need to take. Otherwise, I am trusting the LORD. If something dreadful happens, God allowed it - no one else could have prevented it.

Naive? I do not think so.

Fear is a deadly, incapacitating emotion that operates outside of trust: it is a destroyer. How does one acquire this trust? It begins with little things, trusting God for the little things. If we think we can be capable of the big things without being faithful in the little things we have been deceived, don't you think?


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 2012/6/28 16:05Profile
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Ginny, I really appreciate your remarks.

We have to trust God. Do we sing songs that He is our strong shield.

Here is what Jesus said, when someone was robbed.

Luk 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
Luk 6:30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
Luk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

In light of Jesus' words, if we fight back rather than love then no redemptive grace will go out from us.

Yes, Gary, I say pray and with boldness and love speak to the attacker.

Have you all heard of the Christian woman that was going to her car in the Walmart parking lot and a gunman was waiting for her and made her drive off with him? I will have to upload it somewhere. It was a story from Dr. Dobson and it was an amazing story of faith and redemption.

We must not fight back or lean on the arm of the flesh. This is very foreign to American Christians, but not foreign to Jesus Christ and the Apostles.

I don't know if Cornelius stopped being a soldier. He may have but we should not compare ourselves to others just to Jesus and what He taught.

We can rationalize away faith and end up not pleasing the Lord.

I know we will all be tested soon and we should encourage those who are having to fight fear. To our flesh it is a fearful thing in America to see your "freedoms" eroding, and it should lead us to trusting the Lord more.

Pilgrim

 2012/6/28 16:16Profile
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so your saying that if some breaks in to your house at night and trys to ubduct your childreen and others children whom you are baby siting ,,you will not atempt to stop it from hapening


sorry i wont just pray and hope for the best and then blame god for all the evil that some one else commits

paull said athoritys are ordaind by god ,. to stop things like that happening and to punish evil

if god has ordained a security sytem like that in a country and we are to obey that law of the land becasue it is ordained ,,,how can one say god has ordained a sinfull pracctice of protecting the inocent

paul said they are even gods ministers to perfom his will

do you think that god wants children to get raped

and people to get murdred ,that its is what he wants


you going to stand there praying thats it nothing else

wile i child is being sodamised by a demon possesd anmale
you will stand there and not atempt to protect a child

you believe god wants to let this stuff happen

jesus walked into the temple in righeous anger and drove out the moneychanges with wips ,and and over turned tables

but he would not atempt to drive out with a wip a a man who was defiling a child

it would anger jesus to no end if he saw this happen

turn the other cheak is pesonal thing ,,not a colective ,teaching


we can rasionalise away morality ,and not please the lord


did jesus get in the flesh when he got angry

it was the spirit that was angry

i say we are as guilty as the molesterer if we stand there and do nothing

thats not laying down our life for gods creations

sorry i am in total disagreement with this

if im atacked as a christian ,my goal is to turn the other cheak if to death and even in an arugumant to the cheak

but a child i wont turn there cheak for them ,they are to young , god has ordained that they are protected

if any one harms a littel one ,it would be better that a milstone be hung around his neck ,and him thrown in the ocean

it is a work of righeousness to risk you life and lay down you life in situations like this ,rather then say god let it happened he let the child be sodamised ,.i prayed and the man stil raped the child ,it was gods doing


brethern by gods grace i would lay down my life to protect your little children ,,waether it be junp into an ocean to save them againsts the current

or jump in to the middle of sick situation and defuse a situation with the abilitys god suplied

i could not live ,if i just let that happen

how can we blame the provdence of god in all these situation ,,,thats hypa sovernisim

sorry brothers and sisters if im a guist in you house i wont be leting some one muder you child
i will grab the child by force if nesary and put my self in there place ,and be murded ,before just standing there and only praying


and believe me i pray and no gods protected me and my family supanaturaly


i say yes pray with boldness ,and if a miracle doest not take place lay your life down and protect the inicent child or women ,or down sindrom


blessings

 2012/6/29 5:09Profile
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so your saying that if some breaks in to your house at night and trys to ubduct your childreen and others children whom you are baby siting ,,you will not atempt to stop it from hapening



How would you try to stop it? What would you be prepared to do?


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paull said athoritys are ordaind by god ,. to stop things like that happening and to punish evil



Ok, so you would call the police.

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do you think that god wants children to get raped



Of course not.

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you going to stand there praying thats it nothing else wile i child is being sodamised by a demon possesd anmale you will stand there and not atempt to protect a child



Again, what are you prepared to do? How far would you go?

Also, I pray now, I don't wait for then to pray. I live a life of trusting God and believe He will continue to protect my family and I as He has done in the past.

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turn the other cheak is pesonal thing ,,not a colective ,teaching we can rasionalise away morality ,and not please the lord



And man has learned to rationalize away Scriptures, too.

Luke 6:29 - Talks about a thief and robber breaking taking your possessions and Jesus says give them more. Are you now going to criticize Jesus?


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i say we are as guilty as the molesterer if we stand there and do nothing



Again, what are you prepared to do? How far would you go in stopping him?

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but a child i wont turn there cheak for them ,they are to young , god has ordained that they are protected



And what if it was not a child? Does your reasoning change? Why just a little child and not adults? Life is life, right?

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it is a work of righeousness to risk you life and lay down you life in situations like this ,rather then say god let it happened he let the child be sodamised ,.i prayed and the man stil raped the child ,it was gods doing



And that's fine, but show me scriptures and tell me how far would you go to protect someone? Would you kill them with your bare hands or would you shoot them or knife them or have you thought this through and got another plan? Are are you praying and trusting God? Have you ever been in this situation? Do you know anyone personally that has been in this situation? If so, what did they do?


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brethern by gods grace i would lay down my life to protect your little children ,,waether it be junp into an ocean to save them againsts the current



Of course, anyone would do that.

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or jump in to the middle of sick situation and defuse a situation with the abilitys god suplied



So, you are saying with your physical strength you would try to wrest the child away from the attacker? So would I.
Would you try to kill the attacker?

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i could not live ,if i just let that happen

Of course, not. If someone invaded my house, unless it was the police (turning on its citizens or a foreign army), I would use my strength to subdue the attacker. But, I would also be praying, too. I own rifles for hunting, but I would not use them, even thought the "laws" of my state say I can.

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how can we blame the provdence of god in all these situation ,,,thats hypa sovernisim



Are you blaming God? I'm not.

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sorry brothers and sisters if im a guist in you house i wont be leting some one muder you child
i will grab the child by force if nesary and put my self in there place ,and be murded ,before just standing there and only praying



Yes, I think most people would choose to that who don't believe Jesus wants them to kill others. Remember, Jesus Christ lives inside us and He says, "give place to wrath, Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord".

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i say yes pray with boldness ,and if a miracle doest not take place lay your life down and protect the inicent child or women ,or down sindrom



Oh, then we are in agreement. You have told me how far you would go. You will not kill someone, but you would physically try to stop someone and lay down your life to protect a child. I hope you would do that for an adult, too.

Unfortunately, there are many American "Christians" that are now ready to rise up with weapons to "take back" and "save" their way of life. They see the robber (government)is breaking into their house and taking their possessions (taxes) and they see that as going against God and they are supposed to correct that with armed conflict if need be. You don't believe that, do you?

Do you believe Christians should join this world's armies and fight this world's battles? What is the ultimate result of that kind of thinking?

Thank you,
Pilgrim

 2012/6/29 9:35Profile
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Pilgrim, I understand and appreciate your response...


The "what ifs" are questions that beg answers and in so doing will undermine one's faith in the leading of the LORD in dangerous situations.

But have we not all heard of ladies that were abducted who handled the situation very well by ministering to the abductors soul? I admire these ladies level-headedness in taking control of the situation. Seems to me this is what should be taught rather then assuming the only answer to abduction is violence. In so doing you are allowing the enemy to determine the rules for the 'fight'.

What about it? Don't y'all think one needs to look outside the box and think radically (Biblically) instead of violently?

God bless..


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But have we not all heard of ladies that were abducted who handled the situation very well by ministering to the abductors soul? I admire these ladies level-headedness in taking control of the situation. Seems to me this is what should be taught rather then assuming the only answer to abduction is violence. In so doing you are allowing the enemy to determine the rules for the 'fight'.

What about it? Don't y'all think one needs to look outside the box and think radically (Biblically) instead of violently?



Such accounts as have been eluded too here are worthy of admiration. However, it is one thing to speak of a sister or a lady being abducted and another to speak of non physical resistance to such an attempt. The same law which says it is wrong to abduct says you have a reasonable right of defence. As we all all subject to law the only time when one should put the law aside is for the sake of the Gospel. No doubt a missionary would have to think twice about decking someone in self defence but a husband has an absolute duty to deck some one in such circumstances. The mind of the male is a simple one to grasp where physical violence is concerned. Violence has a two way effect. It can suddenly bring an individual to soberness and a willingness to do right or it ends up in death. Note that is a "simple one to grasp" not a simple mind. People who abduct or use violence to achieve their ends are essentially thugs. But a thugs mind is also an abused mind. Understand that and you have a basis for understanding why violent resistance in many circumstances is both necessary and fruitful. It is always possible to pick someone off the floor and explain the love of God. It may not be possible to stop someone harming your family through prayer or supplication.

There are circumstances in which it is never possible to use violence as a means of reasonable protection. Such as when a policeman uses violence against you. In such a circumstance one would always have to accept the beating and commit the matter to God. But a violent thief or rapist or such like! Deck them suddenly and with a singular effect. It will do them more good than a whole load of talk. As for a female using violence it must be obvious that to use violence to resist someone who is enraged or else stronger than ones self is foolishness. But in those instances when women have the technical advantage guess what. They use violence to defend themselves. Sorry but its a real world.

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 2012/6/29 13:35





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