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vivmeeraj
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 Having the right attitude - laymen & servants

Rom 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

Let us not hold on to what ‘we believe’ is right but what god wants us to do. (His will). We need to look into the lives of some men of god mentioned in the bible to understand certain aspects. There are many more cases of men who still live or lived during our life time. As we prefer to stay to the word of god and not discuss others, let us not do it, but personally, it is a call for each of us to discern and hold on to truth during this time of extreme deception.

This is an attempt to look at the human element in faith life. The weakness or imperfection of men, the will of man and the ways of man. But there is hope in the one who gives us grace and His spirit as we see in the following men too towards the end of their lives.

Moses makes mistakes

Num 20:10 and Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly before the rock. And he said to them, "Listen now, you rebels; shall we bring forth water for you out of this rock?" Num 20:11 Then Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock twice with his rod; and water came forth abundantly, and the congregation and their beasts drank. Num 20:12 But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, "Because you have not believed Me, to treat Me as holy in the sight of the sons of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land which I have given them."

Peter & other disciples made mistakes

Matt 26:31 onwards – Jesus said, will deny Him three times before the rooster crows.
Luke 9:33 onwards –equating Jesus with Moses and Elijah,
Luke 9: 49, 50 – despising other men of god,
Luke 9: 51 -56 – revengeful attitude of disciples which Jesus rebukes.

Paul makes mistakes

Even after receiving the ultimate revelation (Gal 1:12) which transformed Saul to Paul, he did make many mistakes.
Acts 16: 1-4 (circumcision of Timothy) Paul had fought with Peter about conforming to Jewish Law but he did the same thing.
Acts 18:1 (cutting his hair as he had a vow)
Acts 21: 21 – 26 – accepting Jewish ritual to please them

What we gather from all these examples and many more from the many sincere and even some of the finest men of god is that, men are bound to make mistakes. So even when we have the finest man of god serving us, we need to look up and hear from Him. If not, there is a high chance that we may stumble on something and fall.

These men (Moses, Paul, Peter, John etc) themselves had this wonderful quality of hearing from god and we know how god transformed them towards their last stages.

Peter the impulsive person who lost all his courage in front of a maid when Jesus was taken away becomes fearless and speaks the word boldly in front of Jews a few days later. He who had denied Jesus three times finally requests, (historical documents) when he was to be crucified, to be crucified upside down as he was not worthy to be crucified the way Jesus was. Paul’s vision of justification ONLY by faith in Christ and the meaninglessness of LAW becomes clearer towards the later epistles. He who once had a strong stand on trivial issues (Acts 15: 35 -40) becomes more and more graceful (Phil 2 etc). That is what happens when one walks with the Lord.

Let us beware and not idolize men of god, let us respect them, love them, serve them, support them and be submissive to them. Submission has to be primarily to God and through Him to His men. Let us see this from the word of God, written by none other than Apostle Paul Himself. He says apostles are also under us (an ordinary believer), in the hierarchy. Difficult to believe but it is written so.
1 Cor 3:18 - 23 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you thinks that he is wise in this age, he must become foolish, so that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, "{He is} THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS"; and again, "THE LORD KNOWS THE REASONINGS of the wise, THAT THEY ARE USELESS." So then let no one boast in men. For all things belong to you, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come; all things belong to you, and you belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God.

So the hierarchy is

GOD > Christ > We (the ordinary believer) > Servant of God & everything else.

Luke 22:26 "But {it is} not this way with you, but the one who is the greatest among you must become like the youngest, and the leader like the servant.

We need to have a revelation of this especially those who seek to work for god. We need to be servants of god and the prerequisite for that is being servants of men too. But serving according to the will of god and not the will of man. Speaking from the pulpit the undefiled word of god with no mercy (non compromising) but with all the love, humility and care for those who are being served. Oh god, we need a lot more of your amazing grace. We need discernment and humility. We need submissiveness and independence at the same time. We need you more than anything else. Please come, fill and enlighten our hearts.

2 Cor 4:6 For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
Eph 1:18 {I pray that} the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,

Praise and glory to god.


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Rajesh

 2012/6/28 3:18Profile
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 Re: Having the right attitude - laymen & servants

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So the hierarchy is

GOD > Christ > We (the ordinary believer) > Servant of God & everything else.



What is the difference between an "ordinary believer" and a "Servant of God"?

What is a layman?

Thanks,
Pilgrim

 2012/6/28 10:28Profile
vivmeeraj
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Dear Pilgrim,

No difference, that is the point Paul is trying to convey. As Jesus Himself told, we are all brethren.

People might look up at leaders as intermediaries.

1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, {and} one mediator also between God and men, {the} man Christ Jesus,

Love


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