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ET101
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Nate,

I haven't followed the thread but saw your original post.

I want to share this sermon with you. I think it will be very helpful:

Come up unto Me - Art Katz
http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=10799&commentView=itemComments

God bless!

 2012/6/9 2:09Profile
brothagary
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weeping with joy is a brokeness that is linked with indescribale emotions, utter indescibale thankfullnes can move us into waves broken joy ,,intersesion is a brokeness over souls that cause a sweet agony ,with grones and floods of tears and indescribale panting and wailing,,,praying for revivle ,is the despret thrusting of ones exsasabated holy longing, with emence weeping and wailing ,combined with indesribale pain and wellbeing mingled with emence joy that stems from the gift of faith ,,noing that god is coming ,oohhh, and the conviction of sin,, what a blend of gods love ,more lord of that brokenses ,pour out you spirit of prayer and suplication

have you knowen the powefulling workings of the holy spirit in your life

have you

will you be content with a joy that comes from the flesh that acts like spiritual joy ,,that puffs us up

have you preached the word with tears and brokenss

do you literlay tremble at times with weeping and brokeness when you read his word ,,

come to the foot of the cross and spent some time there

let us go to him out side the camp baring his reproch

let us never be satasfied ,but allways seek greater and greater manfestation of the presesnce of god

look there is the gate out side the camp where he hung

lets walk there daily ,,,,,do this in rememberence of me ,till i return

blessings

 2012/6/9 3:01Profile
NateMarshall
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ET101,

Just wanted to say "thank you" for pointing me in the direction of Art's sermon. It was definitely a God-send! He touched on a number of thoughts that were in my head and my heart that needed to be dealt with, and God has been faithful to give me understanding.

Once again, I'm so thankful for everyone's responses! God bless you all!


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Nathaniel Marshall

 2012/6/10 13:48Profile









 Re: Speaking of being broken before the throne...

This was a great thread with a lot of openness and honesty. I believe that God must do the breaking as He is the Great Shepherd whose rod comforts us. He is the God of all comfort, yet we must be disciplined for a season so that we may partake of His holiness (Heb. 12:10). We must let God break us like He did Jacob so that we only lean on Christ and the cross and not our own strength. Let us not worry about tomorrow, make plans for tomorrow, or store up treasures on earth; only the broken and surrender may say this because this broken vessel's help comes from the Lord and not from the world. As Moses said: "If your presence will not go with me, do not bring us up from here." Further, Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise." When we are NOT broken we do much apart from Him and we cannot SEE Him, but when we have been broken and have a contrite spirit we can do NOTHING apart from Him because He is ever before us and leading us, while His Spirit continually fills us.

Here is a short audio sermon from Gerhard Du Toit on Humility verses Pride

http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=16813&commentView=itemComments

Here's the transcript of this message:

BROKENNESS

“The Lord is near to the brokenhearted…” -Psalm 34:18

• When God has given me a broken heart, I’m overwhelmed with a sense of my own spiritual need.
• When I live a broken Christian life, there is a spirit of compassion about my life because I can forgive much because I know how much I have been forgiven. I always esteem others better than myself.
• When I serve God with a broken heart, I have a dependant spirit and I recognize my need for others.
• When I serve God with a broken life, I’ve learned the secret of denying myself.
• When my heart is broken before God, I have a motivation to serve others. I’m motivated to be faithful before God, and to make others a success.
• When my heart is broken before God, I have a deep desire to promote other believers. I have a sense of my own unworthiness. And I’m so thrilled that God would use me in any kind of a ministry or any kind of a fellowship. I’m always eager for others to get the credit.
• When my heart is broken, I rejoice when others are lifted up and I never defend myself.
• When my heart is broken before God, I have a heart attitude that says, “I do not deserve to be part of this fellowship. I know that I’ve got nothing to offer God, except the life of Christ that is flowing through my broken life.”
• When I’m broken before God, I’m so humiliated by how much more I have to learn. I’m not concerned about the self-life. I’m willing to take risks to become vulnerable, and to be close to others, and to open my life to love other people.
• When I serve God with a broken heart, I always take personal responsibility and I can see where I have done wrong in any kind of a situation.
• When I’m broken before God I always receive criticism with a humble and with an open spirit. I'm concerned about being real. And what they care about and what matters to those who are broken, is not what others think, but it’s what God knows about them. And I’m willing to die to my own reputation.
• When I live a broken Christian life, I’m willing to be open and transparent with others, as God will direct me.
• When I’m broken before God, I don’t care who knows or who finds out about me. I am willing to be exposed because I have nothing to lose in my relationship with God.
• When I serve God with a broken heart, I’m always quick to admit my failures, and I want to seek forgiveness whenever it is necessary.
• When I live a broken Christian life, and I’m under the conviction of God’s Spirit, I’m able to acknowledge the specifics about my sin. I’m grieved over the cause of my sin, and I’m grieved over the root of my sin.
• When I’m broken before God, I truly and genuinely repent over my sin, and the evidence in the fact is that I want to forsake that sin.
• When I live a broken Christian life, I want to take the initiative to be reconciled when there has been a misunderstanding, or a conflict in any kind of a relationship. I want to race to the cross, I want to see if I can get there first no matter how wrong the other person may have been.
• When I’m broken before God, I compare myself with the holiness of God. I sense the desperate need of the mercy and the grace of God. I always want to walk in the light.
• When I serve God with a broken spirit, I realize that I have a need of a consistent cleansing of heart and repentance.
• When I’m broken before God, I continually sense my need for a fresh encounter with God the Holy Spirit.


PRIDE

“God opposes the proud…” –James 4:6

• When there is pride in my life as a Christian, I always focus on the failures of other Christians and other fellowships.
• When there is pride in my life, I’ve got a very self-righteous spirit, I’ve got a critical spirit, I have a fault finding spirit, and I look at everyone else’s faults through the microscope, but I always look at my own faults through the telescope and I always look down upon the lives of other people.
• When there is pride in my life, I have an independent and a self-sufficient spirit. I’m protective of my time. I try to protect my reputation and my rights as a Christian, and I focus on the deficiencies of other Christians.
• When there is pride in my life, I want to be served by other Christians. I’ve got a desire to be successful. I want to advance the self-life.
• When there is the sin of pride in my life, I’ve got this drive, I want to be appreciated, I want to be recognized. I’m offended and I’m wounded when other Christians are promoted, and I have been overlooked, because of what I have done.
• When there is pride in my life, I’ve got this inner attitude, and this is what I say: “This fellowship is very privileged to have me and my gifts.” And all I think as what I can do for God.
• When there is pride in my life, I’m confident, about how much I’ve learned of the Scriptures, and how far I have gone in my relationship with God.
• When there is pride in my life, I always keep people at a distance.
• When there is pride in my life, I want to blame other people.
• When there is pride in my life, I’m unapproachable.
• When there is pride in my life, I’m defensive when I’m criticized by other Christians.
• When there is the sin of pride in my life, I’m so concerned to be respectable, I’m concerned about what other people think of me, and I try to protect my image and my reputation.
• When there is pride in my life, I find it very difficult to share my spiritual needs.
• When there is the sin of pride, I wanna be sure that no one else finds out that I have sinned. And I try to cover up sin. And I have this instinct to try not to reveal it.
• When there is pride in my life, I always want to make sure that no one else finds out when I have sinned, and I try to cover it up. And I find it very, very difficult to say, “You know, I'm wrong, will you please forgive me?”
• When there is pride in my life, I’m concerned about the consequences of my sin, I’m remorseful over my sin, simply because I’ve been caught, that I have sinned before God and sinned before man.
• When there is pride in my life, I always wait for others to come and ask for forgiveness, when there is a misunderstanding or a conflict, in my relationship with God.
• When there is pride in my life, I try to compare myself with other Christians, and other believers and other fellowships. And I always think that I’m better than them.
• When there is pride in my life, I’m blind. I become blind to my own heart condition.
• When there is pride in my life, I don’t think that there is anything in my life that I need to repent of. I don’t think that I need revival. Oh but I’m so sure that everyone else needs revival in my relationship with God.

KM

 2013/6/19 9:20





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