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 IT’S (PAST) TIME for A CHARISMATIC REFORMATION -J. Lee Grady.


In honor of Reformation Day, here are some complaints I’m nailing on the Wittenberg door.

Long before there was an Occupy Wall Street, Martin Luther staged the most important protest in history. He was upset because Roman Catholic officials were promising people forgiveness or early escape from purgatory in exchange for money. So on October 31, 1517, Luther nailed a long list of complaints on the door of a church in Wittenberg, Germany.

Luther’s famous 95 theses were translated from Latin into German and spread abroad. Like a medieval Jeremiah, Luther dared to ask questions that had never been asked, and he challenged a pope who was supposedly infallible. Through this brave monk, the Holy Spirit sparked the Protestant Reformation and restored the doctrine of grace to a church that had become corrupt, religious, dysfunctional, political and spiritually dead.

I am no Luther, but I’ve grown increasingly aware that the so-called “Spirit-filled” church of today struggles with many of the same
things the Catholic church faced in the 1500s. We don’t have “indulgences”—we have telethons. We don’t have popes—we have super-apostles. We don’t support an untouchable priesthood—we throw our money at celebrity evangelists who own fleets of private jets.

In honor of Reformation Day, I’m offering my own list of needed
reforms in our movement. And since I can’t hammer these on the Wittenberg door, I’ll post them online. Feel free to nail them everywhere.

1. Let’s reform our theology. The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity. He is God and He is holy. He is not an “it.” He is not a blob, a force, or an innate power. We must stop manipulating Him, commanding Him and throwing Him around.

2. Let’s return to the Bible. The Word of God is the foundation for the Christian experience. Any dramatic experience, no matter how spiritual it seems, must be tested by the Word and the Holy Spirit’s discernment. Visions, dreams, prophecies and encounters with angels must be in line with Scripture. If we don’t test them we could end up spreading deception.

3. It’s time for personal responsibility. We charismatics must stop blaming everything on demons. People are usually the problem.

4. Stop playing games. Spiritual warfare is a reality, but we are
not going to win the world to Jesus just by shouting at demonic principalities. We must pray, preach and persevere to see ultimate victory.

5. Stop the foolishness. People who hit, slap or push others during prayer should be asked to sit down until they learn gentleness is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

6. End all spiritual extortion now. Christian television ministries must cease and desist from all manipulative fundraising tactics. We must stop giving platforms to ministers who make outlandish claims of supernatural financial returns, especially when Scripture is twisted, deadlines are imposed and the poor are exploited.

7. No more Lone Rangers. Those who claim to be ministers of God—whether they are traveling evangelists, local pastors or
heads of ministries—must be accountable to other leaders. Any
who refuse to submit their lives to godly discipline should be corrected.

8. Expose the creeps. Churches should start doing background checks on traveling ministers. Preachers who have been hiding criminal records, lying about their past marriages, preying on women or refusing to pay child support should be exposed as charlatans and shunned if they do not repent.

9. Stop faking the anointing. God is God, and He does not need
our “help” to manifest Himself. That means we don’t sprinkle glitter
on ourselves to suggest God’s glory is with us, hide fake jewels on
the floor to prove we are anointed or pull chicken feathers out of our sleeves to pretend angels are in the room. This is lying to the Holy Spirit.

10. Let’s return to purity. We’ve had enough scandals. The charismatic church must develop a system for the restoration of fallen ministers. Those who fall morally can be restored, but they must be willing to submit to a process of healing rather than rushing immediately back into the pulpit.

11. We need humility. Ministers who demand celebrity treatment, require lavish salaries, insist on titles or exhibit aloofness from
others are guilty of spiritual pride.

12. No more big shots. Apostles are the bondslaves of Christ, and should be the most impeccable models of humility. True apostles do not wield top-down, hierarchical authority over the church. They serve the church from the bottom up as true servants.

13. Never promote gifts at the expense of character. Those who operate in prophecy, healing and miracles must also exhibit the fruit of the Spirit. And while we continue to encourage the gift of tongues, let’s make sure we don’t treat it like some kind of badge of superiority. The world needs to see our love, not our glossolalia.

14. Hold the prophets accountable. Those who refuse to take responsibility for inaccurate statements should not be given platforms. And “prophets” who live immoral lives don’t deserve a public voice.

15. Let’s make the main thing the main thing. The purpose of the Holy Spirit’s anointing is to empower us to reach others. We are at a crossroads today: Either we continue off-course, entertained by our charismatic sideshows, or we throw ourselves into evangelism, church planting, missions, discipleship, and compassionate ministry that helps the poor and fights injustice. Churches that embrace this New Reformation will focus on God’s priorities.


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 2012/5/31 14:49Profile
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 Re: IT’S (PAST) TIME for A CHARISMATIC REFORMATION -J. Lee Grady.

Amen to all 15 points of reformation. God does not send revival and reformation without purpose. May the Body of Christ see the great purpose of God in any move of the Holy Spirit, and may we not get sidetracked with lesser purposes or even worse to a counterfeit.


Mike


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 2012/5/31 15:50Profile









 Re: IT’S (PAST) TIME for A CHARISMATIC REFORMATION -J. Lee Grady.


Goodness! I surely do second that Amen.

 2012/5/31 16:00









 Re: IT’S (PAST) TIME for A CHARISMATIC REFORMATION -J. Lee Grady.


His call to reformation is Christless, but there is no such thing as a Christless reformation, however in Oneness there has always been very little room for a present Christ.

Let's move down to door number 8

"8. Expose the creeps. "

Now remember, he asked for it.

J. Lee Grady is a oneness Pentecostal who believes that Sarah Palin is a prophet sent by God. He is a denier of the person of Christ, nuff said, carry on giving the creep his accolades for his manmade religion.


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 2012/5/31 16:37
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J. Lee Grady is a oneness Pentecostal who believes that Sarah Palin is a prophet sent by God. He is a denier of the person of Christ, nuff said, carry on giving the creep his accolades for his manmade religion.



This is the kind of slanderous, straight from the mouth of the accuser of the brethren statement that needs to be eradicated from this forum.

Perhaps you should read this article by J Lee and come back and repent of your slander:

http://charismanews.com/opinion/33499-why-relational-discipleship-has-become-my-priority

This is not an article from a Christ-less brother.

 2012/5/31 17:22Profile
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As always, Lee Grady appears to be putting forth the call for character balanced with calls for God's power. In particular note number 13 in the list. Great stuff. Accurate article.

So, Old Joe....from your post it appears obvious that you do not agree with Lee Grady's assessment and points. It is hard to take your point about "oneness" when he SPECIFICALLY states

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The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity



Hmmm.... in his own words he states "trinity". You say he doesn't believe in the trinity... he says he does. Me thinks thou mayest be mistaken.

In short takes he states

1. Let’s reform our theology. The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity.
2. Let’s return to the Bible. The Word of God is the foundation for the Christian experience.
3. It’s time for personal responsibility.
4. Stop playing games. Spiritual warfare is a reality.
5. Stop the foolishness. gentleness is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.
6. End all spiritual extortion now.
7. No more Lone Rangers.
8. Expose the creeps.
9. Stop faking the anointing.
10. Let’s return to purity. We’ve had enough scandals.
11. We need humility.
12. No more big shots. Apostles are the bondslaves of Christ, and should be the most impeccable models of humility.
13. Never promote gifts at the expense of character.
14. Hold the prophets accountable.
15. Let’s make the main thing the main thing. The purpose of the Holy Spirit’s anointing is to empower us to reach others.

Which of these do you reject as things that are necessary and helpful?

It appears after reading his post that Lee Grady is stepping up to the plate with needed ideas. Since you reject him and his ideas pray tell what are your answers to the same issues he addresses?

 2012/5/31 17:55Profile
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Amen to the 5th power.

Regardless of the author's theology (I could care less) what he says is accurate and needed.


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 2012/5/31 18:02Profile
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Thank you Greg!

Another excellent article by J. Lee Grady, he has been writing timely articles for the body of Christ for years now and I thank God for people like him who know how to give correction and to warn others of deception among us.

We also need to pray to God for grace to put up with and pray for people who have a Christless attitude toward others.

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