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 How I Overcame PORN & LUST & How YOU Can Also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loh-iXMgq40&feature=plcp
How I Overcame PORN & LUST & How YOU Can Also

as the young kid said in the video, holiness is not how many Bible verses we know, how much Bible knowledge we have, holiness is to live out holiness from our life, we must be honest to ourselves ,also be honest to God, we should have reality check, if we have sinful problem in this area (pron and lust) , if we practice sin , we need to ask GOD’ help to stop it. GOD will help us .
I love the kid’s honesty and zeal ness, and be real (do not be pretend) , there video just let us know , Jesus is coming back, are we ready ? May God give us the determination and desperation to turn to Him and ask Him for help !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDolHW7CfA4&feature=plcp

Holy Desperation - WAKE UP CHURCH!!! (David Wilkerson)



http://www.youtube.com/user/kingdomwarriorscom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFLTfO7QdRI&list=PL863DC48029E7B0FA&index=1&feature=plpp_video

 2012/5/22 19:29









 Re: How I Overcame PORN & LUST & How YOU Can Also

Ga 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. {ye...: or, fulfil not}

Ga 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
(KJV)

 2012/5/22 19:59









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Good verses to post regarding walking in the Spirit. Now, how does one go about walking in the Spirit so they do not fulfill the lust of the flesh?

 2012/5/22 20:53









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Short answer is daily walking in humility to God listening and being guided by the Holy Spirit that is actually inside of you.

Here's a longer answer ,(Edit Add, from Albert Barnes)

Galatians 5:16 Ga 5:16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.


Verse 16. This I say then. This is the true rule about overcoming the propensities of your carnal natures, and of avoiding the evils of strife and contention.

Walk. The Christian life is often represented as a journey; and the word walk, in the Scripture, is often equivalent to live,
Mr 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

. See Barnes for Ro 4:12; See Barnes for Ro 6:4; See Barnes for Ro 8:1.

In the Spirit. Live under the influences of the Holy Spirit; admit those influences fully into your hearts. Do not resist him, but yield to all his suggestions. See Barnes for Ro 8:1. What the Holy Spirit would produce, Paul states in
Ga 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,


Ga 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

"|. If a man would yield his heart to those influences, he would be able to overcome all his evil propensities; and it is because he resists that Spirit that he is ever overcome by the corrupt passions of his nature. Never was a better, safer, or a more easy rule given to overcome our corrupt and sensual desires than that here furnished. Comp. See Barnes for Ro 8:1, and
Ro 8:2-13 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

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And ye shall not fulfil, etc. Marg., Fulfil not--as if it were a command. So Tindal renders it. But the more common interpretation, as it is the more significant, is that adopted by our translators. Thus it is not merely a command; it is the statement of an important and deeply interesting truth--that the only way to overcome the corrupt desires and propensities of our nature, is by submitting to the influences of the Holy Spirit. It is not by philosophy; it is not by mere resolutions to resist them; it is not by the force of education and laws; it is only by admitting into our souls the influence of religion, and yielding ourselves to the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God. If we live under the influences of that Spirit, we need not fear the power of the sensual and corrupt propensities of our nature.

{b} "Walk"
Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


Ro 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


Ro 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


{1} "ye shall not fulfill the lust" "fulfil not"
{*} "lust" "desire"

By Albert Barnes

 2012/5/22 21:41
PaulWest
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This is a chapter from a book I wrote entitled "Understanding Mortification" which deals largely with combating the power of lust and other temptations of the flesh:


The unrenewed mind can be likened as unto a landing strip for the cargo of Satan. Once the cargo is embraced, the mind will begin to use it to generate fleshly rebellion in defiance to God’s law. The powers of darkness wage careful attacks with the goal to infiltrate our thoughts and steer our meditations from the loftiness of God to the baseness of our carnality. Popular preachers are often used as tools in the hands of Satan to effectuate this. When a minister speaks of physical obtainments such as monetary blessings, houses, automobiles, personal ambition, outward beauty, or carnal obtainments in any measure as a focus for prayer or as a result of godliness, the minister in question is unknowingly being used by Satan to stir the flesh against the spirit through heresy (Romans 16:10; I Timothy 6:5, 9-10; Titus 1:11; 3:10; II Peter 2:3).

God has given discernment to His children for the purpose of knowing what they are to mortify and what they are to embrace. If an impulse surfaces in your mind which causes you to fixate upon some personal gain to selfishly improve or facilitate your sojourning upon this cursed earth, such an impulse ought to be identified as injurious to the spirit and instantly mortified. I say instant mortification, because if you allow for a reprieve, your flesh nature will arise and persuasively advocate the impulse’s cause. This appeal is the beginning stage of a stronghold.

Bring this principle now to the sleek tarmac of the eye. Many men fight a war with the temptation to lust with their eyes. If the mind has not been renewed, the lustful image can be unloaded from the eyeport and brought into the mind for unprotected processing. Once in the mind, the image will summon the flesh for advocacy. A war then ensues, with the new man struggling to keep the heart closed off to the impending sabotage (Galatians 5:17).

If the spirit of the mind has not been renewed (Romans 12:2), and the inner man not strengthened with might by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 3:16), a stronghold can develop in the heart. A stronghold is an invisible fortress buttressed by unmortified flesh to repress the inner man. The purpose of God’s armor as mentioned in Ephesians chapter 6 is to prevent these strongholds from developing. A revelatory understanding of satanic warfare and how the rulers of darkness seek to infiltrate our vessels via the mind will shed tremendous light on the putting on of this divine armor. God’s armor is given for mortification; it is divinely designed for preventing spirits of wickedness from invading the tarmac of our senses and giving rise to the flesh by perverting our thought-patterns. The Sword of the Spirit likewise is for aggressively countering each fiery dart of satanic suggestion with the fatal thrust of “It is written” as it brings the impulse down into captivity (Luke 4: 4, 8, 10; II Corinthians 10:3-5).

God protects our hearts and minds with grace and peace when our affections are set on Christ seated above (Philippians 4:6; Colossians 3:1-3). If we are careful to be renewed in the spirit of our minds and seek grace to overcome each assault, we can win a steady victory daily. Although the joy of walking before God with a clean conscience and a pure heart is an asset without price, it is one we all can partake of without exception if certain precautions are made.

For our God is no respecter of persons.

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mortification-The-Pathway-Victory/dp/147017460X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1337738957&sr=1-1


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 2012/5/22 22:12Profile









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That is a very GOOD chapter Paul.

Thank you for posting it.
At some point I will get the whole book as well.

 2012/5/22 22:38
jochbaptist
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 Re: how does one go about walking in the Spirit

"quote"
Now, how does one go about walking in the Spirit so they do not fulfill the lust of the flesh?
"end quote"/

Onemite shared this under the thread "Appetites", and it is very much how I experienced it myself.


"I spent a lot of years waiting for God to meet me in my pit, take me out of my pit, remove my pit. He did none of those things. Instead, He patiently waited on me to step into the Light.
I would meditate on the word that says that he provides for us a way of escape from temptation and wonder why I couldn't escape my passions. Where was my "out?"
It wasn't till I began to *see* that my way of escape was not the escape that I wanted or imagined, but it was literally to remove all focus from myself and my temptation and set my focus onto Jesus.
I will use an issue with anger that I dealt with as an example: I would ask the Lord to remove my anger but then when I found myself angry, I would resist a little, and then go with it because I thought to deny it would be to lie to myself. I mean, if God had delivered me from anger then why was I feeling angry? So I believed I was not delivered, and I would go with the flow of feeling angry. You see, even though I was thinking about God I was still focused on my want- to feel angry and act on it. As a result, I remained in bondage.
Eventually, I began to ask God to deliver me from anger, and when I would be tempted to act on it I would fall on my knees and tell God about all the scriptures I had read that convicted my heart that it was sin for me, asking deliverance from this thing in my heart that displeases Him and I would recount His goodness and character. Through persevering in this way, I began to notice that the episodes became less frequent and less severe. This was the way of escape He had given me.
If the Holy Spirit is convicting you of gluttony, then He is also wanting to free you from it. It is natural to wish the temptation would just be gone, but even Jesus "learned obedience by the things he suffered." God wants us to learn to be dependent on Him. Ask Him to teach you how He is your way of escape. This is the Fathers will for us. May God bring this to life for you.
Jesus was tempted just like we are, but yet he never gave into a temptation. How did he do it? The very same way- He wanted only to do the Fathers will, and He sought to please Him in all things. He spent all his life humbling himself before Him , that's what Jesus came to show us. That's the WAY. The Way to life.
"Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me."


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