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 terror of the Lord

Who is Paul talking to in 1st Cor.5 when he says" knowing the terror of the Lord we Persuade men."? The context to me looks as if he is talking about being aware of the terror of the Lord being directed at His Children.

 2012/1/16 6:13Profile
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 Re: terror of the Lord

First, I believe you mean 2 Corinthians 5.

Concerning the terror of the Lord, both believers and unbelievers need to be persuaded.

Verse 10 tells us we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ. All would mean both believers and unbelievers.

No one will be overlooked.

God bless.

 2012/1/16 8:57Profile
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 Re: terror of the Lord

2nd Corithians 5 speaks to the terror or fear of the Lord that motivates us to speak to men. Some will long debate reverance vs. fear that is brought about by this scripture as well as the like scriptures we find in the writing of David and his son.

The prior verse speaks to the judgement seat of God, in front of Who all men will stand and be judged. God has spoken clearly of his love for his creation but nothing compares to man made in his image for whom his very Son gave His life. To deny the love of God (the Son), will result in a punishment far greater than any gifted could either describe or conceive. It is an eternal torture of unimaginable horror and it should cause the saints of Christ to see those before them who do not know Him, headed to this horrific eternal judgement and wrath. The wrath of a man is one thing. The wrath capable of a God (there is only one) well, that should give us great pause

 2012/1/16 8:58Profile
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 Re: terror of the Lord

Yes timg, I think so. Ever wonder why there is such a poor response to an evangelistic message?

I learned this personally recently and posted on a bit on http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=42392&forum=34&start=10&viewmode=flat&order=0

Part of it: "...After a laborer, Izzy, was born again right in front of these rough men that knew him well, I had to know from God how/why was all this happening, in particular, with rough MEN. Picture 6 men, eyes wide and silent as Izzy testified, confessing his sin nature that they knew and disliked about him, so filled he scoops up old Mrs. Archer (90+) and carries her across the broken up street.

God answered me with His word: "Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;" There are many applications of this "key to evangelism". I know the fear of God. It was unmissable when I met God in revival and that is how God answered my question. ....."

 2012/1/16 10:06Profile
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 Re: terror of the Lord

It seems he assumed they "knew" the terror of the Lord.

I kinda wonder where we are on that today.

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 2012/1/16 10:57Profile
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Correct I ment 2 Corinthians. The context seemed to me to be talking to all men. However, our pastor said yesterday that believers do not have to fear God at the judgement seat of Christ because "there is now no condemnation....".
I asked him after why is it that Paul tells the Phillipians to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. I don't believe that is talking about respect.
I am concerned that in our effort to present God to our children and to the world we have created a god not of the bible but to our own desire. Why is there not more preaching on the judgement seat of Christ. I for one am extreemly concerned about standing in front of a Holy God and not being prepared for an avoidable meeting.

 2012/1/16 14:17Profile
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JoanM, I just read the post you referenced. It was such a blessing to me. I will probably read it through several more times. God be praised! He is still on His throne and does all things well.

 2012/1/16 14:26Profile
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You are right timg and your pastor is missguided.

When you got bornagain you became a child of God.

One should walk as a "son" but most dont so God will spank a son. note Heb 12

Terror is believing God will do to all that He says.

For a child of God that wont walk by the law of the spirit of life you could say the law of love he will recieve fire at the bema seat of Christ.note Rom 8

For the lost they will recieve eternal hell fire.

All sin is forgiven at the cross but the deeds done in our body will be judged.

Did we walk in love or you could say by His spirit or did we walk in self.

 2012/1/16 14:51Profile
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Correct I ment 2 Corinthians. The context seemed to me to be talking to all men. However, our pastor said yesterday that believers do not have to fear God at the judgement seat of Christ because "there is now no condemnation....".
I asked him after why is it that Paul tells the Phillipians to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. I don't believe that is talking about respect.
I am concerned that in our effort to present God to our children and to the world we have created a god not of the bible but to our own desire. Why is there not more preaching on the judgement seat of Christ. I for one am extreemly concerned about standing in front of a Holy God and not being prepared for an avoidable meeting.



Thanks for your post brother. Time has come for believers not to be deceived by these pastors who do not preach the full Gospel. It is true there is no condemnation for those in Christ. The meaning of this verse is, God does not condem us for the sins that we have repented earlier. But we cannot live a sinful life and say that we have faith that God has saved us. Such a faith is a lie and an extension of God's promise.

1 Peter 4 - 17:-
For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

This is another scripture that shows that the judgment will start from us, the believers.
But there is great hope in Jesus for believers, let us seek for Holy Spirit acknowledging that we cannot live this Holy life by our own strength and God will pour his spirit into us who will help us to be Holy as he is Holy.







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