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 Christian leaders??? Beware!

Hi brothers and sisters, take a look at this video and mark these men well. Who amongst us would kiss the "bishops" ring? ......... brother Frank

http://youtu.be/JeIpmIrlo5U

 2012/1/11 12:23
Lysa
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 Re: Christian leaders??? Beware!


For the first minute, they were kissing his ring but then the evangelicals stated coming up and I didn’t see any of them (after 48 seconds), kiss his ring; thank God!!

I don't know who all the people were in dark hooded robes that kissed his ring but I don't believe they were called evangelical, were they? It was kinda hard to hear in the beginning.

God bless,
Lisa


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 2012/1/11 12:42Profile









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Hi Lysa,

I was less concerned with them kissing the bishops ring ( not even sure if that is what the first few were doing) than the fact that these men were there at all, bowing to the Pope, acknowleging him, giving him legitimacy. The first were orthodox. The rest represented a great swath of Christendom......... brother Frank

 2012/1/11 15:50









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The Papacy is the mother church, believe it or not, all the other denominations pay homage. And that's what we see in the video, nothing new.

 2012/1/11 19:05
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That happened in September 23, 2011. It was in Germany and they were German "clergy" (Lutheran).

bottom of this page.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/author/pope-benedict-xvi/
Full text: Pope’s speech to Lutheran leaders

 2012/1/11 19:12Profile









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Hi Pilgrim,

This was in New York. These leaders were American and they included the Eastern Orthodix church, Evangelical Lutheran, United Methodist, Reformed Church, Presbetarian, ,National Baptist convention, Pentecost/holiness, National Association of Evangelicals, Lutheran, and the council of churches.

The Catholic church is not the "mother," church.......brother Frank

 2012/1/11 19:37
pilgrim777
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My, my, my. Thanks for the correction Frank.

I don't know how I connected that up, but that does not surprise me.

Have you read these three?

Evangelicals and Catholics Together (look at the participants at the bottom)
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/evangelicals--catholics-together-the-christian-mission-in-the-third-millennium-2


The Manhattan Declaration
http://bereanbeacon.org/articles/Catholic_Agenda_Embedded_in_the_Manhattan_Declaration.pdf

The Catholic-Lutheran Accord
http://bereanbeacon.org/articles/sorted/05_False_Ecumenism/The_Catholic_Lutheran_Accord.pdf


Pilgrim

 2012/1/11 19:49Profile









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Hi Pilgrim,

I have read those and am aware of the declarations. This, I believe, was the beginning of the end of the Evangelical movement when they embraced these moves..........brother Frank

 2012/1/11 20:15
romanchog
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I came to Christ from a non-Christian and non-Catholic background and I am always saddened/disappointed/distressed to see the hatred of evangelicals to the Catholic Church. I believe that this hatred prevents an objective analysis and understanding of the Catholic Church.

While I agree that there are many teachings and practices in the Catholic Church that are contrary to the Bible, the same can be said of most evangelical churches today. I do not see an equal condemnation and hatred of those churches. (I am not advocating hatred of any church or denomination; I am advocating the command of Christ to love even our enemies.)

To deny that the Catholic Church is NOT the "mother church" is to demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge about the history of Christ's Church.


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