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mguldner
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 Inspiration from Isaiah.

I remember a long while back maybe a year or so ago now we did a study of Jeremiah where we here on SI did an open study of Jeremiah all reading Jeremiah at the same time or relatively close anyways to one another sharing what the Lord revealed to us as we went along.

It was very edifying and encouraging sharing our thoughts, I believe we did the same with some other books but I thought I would start of the Book of Isaiah for those interested in joining me I will be posting in this thread what the Lord shows me in Isaiah. :)


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Matthew Guldner

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 Re: Inspiration from Isaiah.

I join.
WHen and how we start?


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Kotán Norbert

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 Isaiah 1:5-6 and 18-20

Why not now :)

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Isaiah 1:5-6 "Why should you be beaten anymore? Why do you persist in rebellion? Your whole head is injured, your whole heart is afflicted. From the sole of your feet to the top of your head there is no soundness- only wounds and welts and open sores, not cleansed or bandaged." NIV1984



I read this and saw the compassion our heavenly Father has for us, as a father myself I thought of times where my children disobey something I ask them and they get injuried in some way because they disobeyed. Israel failed to identify their sin and disobedience as the problem but all the more were in turmoil. Infact they kept sacraficing to appease God as but God says specifically "I have not pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats." Israel needed good ole fashion repentance to God or a turning to God forsaking their sins and their false Gods in order for God to step in and Heal them.

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Isaiah 1:18-20 “Come now, let us settle the matter,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the good things of the land; but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by the sword.” For the mouth of the LORD has spoken." NIV1984



In Isaiah 1 we see a need for repentance and this is what God is calling for, many have not repented (turned from their sin) and without repentance there is no forgiveness, We can't call our sins white as snow but we as we turn our hearts to God are those that become White as snow. There is no sugar coating the message of the Cross, it frees those submitted to it from Sin.


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Matthew Guldner

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 Isaiah 2:6-9,22

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Isaiah 2:6-9 "You have abandoned your people,the house of Jacob. They are full of superstitions from the East; they practice divination like the Philistines and clasp hands with pagans. Their land is full of silver and gold; there is no end to their treasures. Their land is full of horses; there is no end to their chariots. Their land is full of idols; they bow down to the work of their hands, to what their fingers have made. So man will be brought low and mankind humbled— do not forgive them."



For me personally I believe in our day and age especially in the United States it would be foolish to ignore this passage. This is a proclaimation of Day of the Lord and the sins of the House of Jacob (or so it seems to me) The people have turned from God and have began to put their trust in supersitions, future telling, and agreements with the pagan world to get rich. Why are the people of Israel acting this way? Because they had spent to much time worshiping the works of their hands. We do the same today it just looks differently but this doesn't mean we are off the hook we must humble ourselves and trust in the Lord, or He is liable to just take everything we have away.

I believe Verse 22 sums up the entire intent and purpose of the greater bulk of chapter 2

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"Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what accounts is he?"
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Matthew Guldner

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 Re: Isaiah 1:5-6 and 18-20

Oh, Matt, I love the book of Isaiah! I am glad you are doing this! Mind if I share?

I see in Chapter 1:11-15 how God:
1. Had enough of burnt offerings of rams
2. Takes no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs, goats,
of New moon festivals and appointed feasts
3. These things weary Him.

Why do these things weary Him? May I suggest that it is because people were resorting to rituals to atone for their rebellion. V.15: "Yes, even though you multiply prayers I will not listen, your hands are covered with blood." NASB People were very diligent in the observing of rituals but they lived in disobedience.

Modern day lessons: How often do we resort to doing good works believing that God will see and accept us for being so good while we are living in rebellion/disobedience to his written will?

Some things never change, do they?


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 Re: Isaiah 2:6-9,22

"Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what accounts is he?"

This verse is so profound.

Why do I allow the fear of man manipulate my obedience to God?
This is the epitome of stupidity. And that includes me. I have been so stupid too many times. What will people think? They will get angry? They will be nasty? How do I know? Because of past experiences. So what do I do instead? Walk in fear!

But God says, "STOP!" Now.


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Ah very good Ginny I was hoping you would join in this, such good fellowship from the Study in Jeremiah :)

I am guilty as well of the trap of "Good works atonement" God has no desire for it and infact the NIV says "My Soul Hates" we know from the attributes of God that for Him to hate something means it is the exact opposite of His love. Kind of blows the whistle on a Sunday morning service and those that come simply to do a weekly Ritual and punch the religious time card.


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 Re: Isaiah 1:5-6 and 18-20

Do not hurry so much!:)

I agree, brother, and more:

It is a tragedy, how foolish can be men of God? It is written in verse 3, that an ox and a donkey knows his owner more, than His folk. It is a painful tragedy, that God's folks so much hates their father.

1, Wounds must be cleansed! Unfortunatelly, it is painful. God- like a good surgeon- knows, that it is painful, but saves life. Once He cuts our wounds to clean it, cut our hearts to clean out from sin, it is painful, but useful. This is the pain of repentance. So much of us are frightened of this pain, but do not know, that this is the only way to get rid of infectious wounds.

2, God is doing penalty with sinners, but discipline to His own children. That is why we feel His discipline on our life, we repent! Sinners feel His penalty on their life, and harden their heart- as written in Revelations so much times.
One of my favourites tells the same: Is 26:16 ​​​​​​​O LORD, in distress they looked for you; they uttered incantations because of your discipline. I have some sweet experience of God's discipline, that helps me to hold the way.

verse 13: 13 ​​​​​​​Do not bring any more meaningless offerings; I consider your incense detestable! You observe new moon festivals, Sabbaths, and convocations, but I cannot tolerate sin-stained celebrations!

So much thrue! God never changed. His grace through Jesus will never approve sin-stained worship and praise.

15 ​​​​​​​When you spread out your hands in prayer, I look the other way; when you offer your many prayers, I do not listen, because your hands are covered with blood.

A truth about prayer: God will never listen to our prayer, if we are sinner. Here in Hungary, I hear a lot this word:
"whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you." But do not tell the conditions. It is not obvious that God listens to a prayer.

27 Zion will be freed by justice, and her returnees by righteousness.
It is written to the church and not to the world. Freed by justice!


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Kotán Norbert

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 Re: Isaiah 2:6-9,22

Here in Hungary, it is the same situation as in USA. People started to believe anything- even "God"- but do not want to know Jesus and the only God.

There is a law of God clear in this 2nd chapter:
- Only God is worthy for the glory. No men.
- Proud and arrogant people will be humiliated, but:
- those, who are humble in heart will be exalted with the Lord. (eg. Mt 23:12). Only these humbles get grace of God.

It is amazing how they changed these original laws today in human-centered preaching. Like God would have to satisfy all our needs, as we were above all.


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Kotán Norbert

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Good word Kono! I really enjoyed your first point particularly because there are times when God feels so far off but for the most part God is simply doing what He does best Purifying us, does it hurt Oh yeah! I know that hurt and God hurts so GOOD ;)

Sometimes we need it to go deeper in Him, and sometimes its things we aren't even aware about, when I first came to Christ I had no idea how dark my heart was until God cut it open with his Holiness. It reminds me of Proverbs 3:11 "My Son, do not despise the Lord's discipline and do not resent His rebuke."

I use to ignore God's correction but now I LOVE it I even thank Him for it because Lord knows I need to be corrected.


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