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ChrisJD
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 Re: If you're a guy, have you had enough of the feminist movement?

One of the most prominent landmarks in Washington D.C. is the Washington monument, highly visible it dominates the city's skyline. On top of the monument(at its highest point) is a capstone reportedly weighing 3300 pounds and inscribed with the latin phrase "laus deo" - praise God.

Monuments serve as tributes. They are memorials to victories or sacrifices and loss, in the present and in the past. They can memorialise victories and defeats, not just of wars and battles, but of ideologies as well.


If there is a single persistent and defining characteristic, one prevailing thought which could summarise the course of western society and life, driven by a host of anti-God ideologies that were born out of the philosophical upheval of Europe in the last few centuries, it would be, in a word, rebellion. And if that rebellion were ever to be memorialised, if ever there were a monument erected to immortalise for now and all time the progress and victory of rebellion over every God honoring institution and thought of western society and life, it would likely have as its capstone, so called 'women's lib'.

And luas deo might very well be replaced with 'praise god, she's a woman too'.

Men and women have absolute equality in their value and in their worth. Not in their roles, or in the ways they were made, how they were fashioned, the gifts they were given, by God, to glorify God.

Abolishing the distinctions and values of those roles has been a truimph of the satanic rebellion against God in the west.

Women are not better for it, just more burdned.

Instead of being the highest treasure of a home, women in the 'liberated' society are sexual objects, filled with burdens and stress, dress think and act like men, and taking pills by the bottle full to cope with a multitude of problems with physical and mental health.

A recent report on ABC news said that according to a Gallup health and well-being index, women ages 45-64 have the 'lowest well-being' of any age group in America.

A June, 2011 LA Times report blames smoking, high-blood pressure and obesity for an actual decline in women's life expectancy in some parts of the country. No suggestion is made as to why the women are smoking, have such high-blood pressure, and are overweight. Of course, it's just bad life-choices.

Sure.


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2011/8/7 10:38Profile









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I know that the women are getting wearied by not seeing men of GOD who are strong in The LORD and they're wearied by hearing men constantly whining about their "lust".

How can a woman feel secure unless she's surrounded by men who love GOD enough to lay down their flesh on the altar and take up the New Nature that Jesus died to give mankind.

How can a woman feel secure when men are whining about what GOD hasn't done for them yet? - or just whining, period.

When I'm in the presence of a GODLY man, there's nothing more I want, then to feel that protection and strength from them and know I needn't say a word, because I'm safe around them.

A man who's walk with GOD is where it should be, has not a thing to worry about with the feminists/femin-nazis of this world.

Like 5 ft tall Paul - he sure could handle them and anybody else for that matter, because he walked with GOD in purity and truth. Bless GOD for his example of being 10 ft tall in the face of rebellion of Any type in the Church :) Amen!

 2011/8/7 11:11
ChrisJD
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 Re: If you're a guy, have you had enough of the feminist movement?

"Wasn't the feminist movement an undeclared act of war against men?"


It may be more accurate to say it was an act of war against God.

Provocative clothing and fanning the flames of lust is among the lesser things that men have to be confronted with as a result of the torrent of feminist propaganda that's flooded the world for a century. Ignigting women's lust for power has had devastating results,

"Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you"



Before posting here I had sat down in a coffee shop. A woman sitting next to me had several people stop by to talk to her(women), likely friends who had stayed at the same hotel where the shop sits. One that stopped to talk was going to see her other friend preach at her new church. She was the pastor. The woman she came over to greet responded she too had a female friend who was a pastor(bishop I think she called her).

Later another woman came by and they began to talk about some event where a popular Christian Gospel singer was in attendance. The conversation centered around a he said she said and the dynamics of power involved in the event and elsewhere.

Women have been encouraged to seek and pursue postions of power and influence in any and every place where men have had them before, including in their homes.

A woman's ability to perform the tasks that were before reserved for men has been taken as a mandate for female empowerment to do just that. The attitude is this: because a woman CAN do something, she SHOULD.

In the words of the Irving Berlin song "Anything you can do I can do better; I can do anything better than you."


That anything today, of nescessity, includes getting, keeping, and using, power, wherever and whenever they can find an opportunity to grab it.


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2011/8/7 12:20Profile









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GOD gave the charge over the Church to Men.

Women could not be Pastors of any denomination unless the Men that head that denomination permit it. Shame on them!

Women would have No UnBiblical power unless the Men allowed it.

IF the men in the Church would speak up and against Unholy dressing and the such, we wouldn't have these women in Church dressed unGodly.

GOD gave the charge over the Church to Men.




edit - I'm sorry. I meant to say - "GODLY" Men.

 2011/8/7 12:26
ChrisJD
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"Women would have No UnBiblical power unless the Men allowed it."


That is absolute nonsense.


Since this is not the Islamic Replublic of Iran, religous morality and doctrine is not enforceable by law or the end of a sword.

Be that as it may, woman have and continue to sieze religous power wherver they can, in spite of the protests and objections of men. That some foolish and silly men allow themselves to be led by them is BESIDES the point, because those same women would RULE a congregation of only women just the same.


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2011/8/7 12:33Profile









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Paul says that women are not to "usurp" authority over men.

That word "usurp" = G831- αυθεντέω - authenteō = From a compound of G846 and εντης hentēs (obsolete; a worker); to act of oneself, that is, (figuratively) dominate: - usurp authority over. Part of Speech: verb.

A woman Can be a 'shepherd' over just women but not over men.

In these denominations that ordain women - it is the men who are the Heads of these denominations that are permiting it, and no one is making them. It's their choice to have women Pastors.

No one can "usurp" authority unless they are permitted to.

No man can come under the authority of a woman, unless he succumb to her authority.

Men need to be men. GODLY men, that is.

GODLY men will keep "the Church" or fellowship that they're in, in it's proper order.

What the rebels do or the weak men do, outside of our own fellowships is not our problem. There will always be those who call themselves "Biblical Christians" that are not "Biblical" but if we're not personally affected by them in our own personal lives - we're safe!

 2011/8/7 12:47
ChrisJD
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"Paul says that women are not to "usurp" authority over men.

That word "usurp" = G831- αυθεντέω - authenteō = From a compound of G846 and εντης hentēs (obsolete; a worker); to act of oneself, that is, (figuratively) dominate: - usurp authority over. Part of Speech: verb.


and...

No one can "usurp" authority unless they are permitted to."


This makes no sense. No one can 'dominate' over others unless they are allowed to? Are you serious?


Power grabs are precisely that - asserting one's self by excerting power and influence over others. The means vary, the ends are the same - somebody who WAS in power, gets kicked out.

And how did all those denominations that you referred to, WHO ONCE HELD to the Biblical rule of authority, how did they end up embracing women in the roles of leadership and power?

Did some poor sheepish woman sitting in the congregation just minding her own buisness suddenly get nominated by the GODLY men that once ran those organisations to take the reigns of power? Hmm?

Or did women with the cooperation of men who had bought into the same feminist ideas, push the rigid old gaurd out, WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE CONGREGATION.


The blame game didn't work in the garden and it has no place in this thread either.

I think you're pot has too many bitter herbs in it and not enough meat.


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2011/8/7 12:58Profile









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If a woman can get away with usurping authority OVER a man, then it is the man's fault for allowing it.

Adam was to be the head over and Protect Eve. He was the one who received the Order from GOD to not eat of that one tree. He did not maintain his protective role. Instead, he gave in to her suggestion.
1Tim 2:14 "Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived".. And GOD said unto Adam "Thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife," Gen 3:17

How many Sampson's do we need in the Church?

No one can usurp authority over another in the Church unless they allow it.



edit: Sorry again - meant to say - That IS exactly what Adam did in the Garden - he blamed the woman for "making" him eat of the fruit And, even Blamed GOD by saying "that woman YOU gave me." /o:

 2011/8/7 13:07
ChrisJD
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"If a woman can get away with usurping authority OVER a man, then it is the man's fault for allowing it."


The many GODLY men that fought against the creeping feminist push and agenda in their congregations didn't allow it.

They fought against it and WERE PUSHED OUT by the rebels. Both men and women.

The blame game is pointless here.

You can beat the horse but it wont ride.


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 2011/8/7 13:11Profile
ChrisJD
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"No one can usurp authority over another in the Church unless they allow it."


They certainly can and do. And those who do fight against it and are forced to leave by the men and women pushing them out.

That is STOLEN AUTHORITY.


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