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 Christmas Whats the Truth!


Duet 12:30 Forbids us to learn the pagan ways, or to worship the Lord in a pagan way(process,sheme,model,method,patter or design of the pagan ways)

"Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods."

If we " adopt" a pagan pattern or try to clean it up, we violate duet 12:30,31.

Satan's obejective is to divert our obedience away from serving the true creator of the universe, and influence us to do things his way instead. He is a gifter entertainer and master of ceremonies. The principle object of worship in the ancient world was the sun(among those who were ignorant of the true creator). Behind all Pagan deity worship stands Satan himself.
The most important day in the life of a witch or sorcerer is their annual birthday. This is because the celebration of the suns birthday was the winter solstice, which was what we call december 25th today. (SIDE NOTE, ALL THE DAYS OF OUR WEEK ARE PAGAN AND THE MONTHS EG. SUN-DAY from latin, dies solis, the day of the sun) Origonally, common people did not observe their personal birthday; the earliest birthday observances were reserved for the pagan deities. Later, Kings observed their birthdays, as we see Pharaoh doing in the book of Gen. Much later common people began the practice, but only among Pagans, since that is the origin of birthday celebrations.
Re-visionism("looking back", with changes)'
As a master of ceremonies, Satan disguised his religious deception by what scholars call "revisionism" : a policy of modification or change, especially of a political or religious doctrine or teaching.
History shows that the Roman State religion was one of Sun worship(mithraism) at first, then constantine enforced a blended form of christianity and Mithraism on the empire. He out lawed the true Sabbath(the 7th day reff to on pagan calander saturday) and enforced Sun-day worship under penalty of death. He established Catholicism(latin meaning: Universalism) by setting the dates for observing the weekly"sabbath" as Sunday, and Easter for the empire. ( Easter was already one of several vital Pagan observances, orginally "Ishtar" commemorating the impregnation of the Earth Mother nine months prior to the winter solstice!) Who designed sun worship? The father of lies. Are any lies told around Christmas time?
In the year 525, Dionysus Exiguus came to Rome from Scythia. He was a "monk" of some sort which all Pagan religions seem to have but such a term is not found in Scripture as playing a role in true worship. Coming upon the time of the winter solstice festival celebrating the birthday of the sun, he witnessed all Rome in revelry. Wreaths of greenery were hung on the doors of homes as emblems of the sun. Every good sun worshipper had a round wreath on the door of ther home.Everyone exchanged gifts, and drunken partying was everywhere.
The color RED was also symbolic for the sun, bringing to mind Heat. In ancient Babylon, gifts were placed on trees of the grove as offering to Tammuz/ Nimrod on the winter solstice. the sun idol after he was slain. The "Christmas trees" represented Nimrod to the ancient sun worshippers ( Jeremiah 10:2 "Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." )
and sunrise worship services involving "branches" were even found in Ezekiel 8:17, where the priests turrned towar the sun with their backs to the Lords Temple. The wreaths were emblems of Nimrod and suggested the round solar shape. Learning that these practices in Rome were in honor of the ancient sun idol, Dionysus Exiguus was shocked and dismayed. Reasoning that it was to be impossible to stand in the way of the frenzied fervor, he sought to "revise" the meaning for it by claiming it to be the celebration of the birth of the messiah , not the pgan sun idol( mithras) thus justifying it by adipting this satanic ceremony into "christianity" violating Deut12:30) He invented the concept of "b.c& A.D.)The apologists call it inculturation when we steal a page out of Satans book and take it as our own. When we peel back the mask or layers which conceal these truths, most people dont want to looks at the pure straighy in the eye.
Romans 6:16 "16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"
Revising, camouflaging, masking, concealing: this is the process our enemy employs to deceive us. Can we oversome the deceit or will we drift along with the braod road to destrucion? Awaken-- You are dreaming a babylonian nightmare. There is no mask to peel away from what is true and right ; there is no Pagan underpinning to the truth-- it is clean and pure from its origins.

Mr. "HO-HO-HO" The story of a "Nicholas" in Holland during the 3rd century who was generous to children is unsubstatantiated by anything but relatively recent lore, but christian he could not have been. Christianity made no inroads in the Norse areas until Patrick during the 8th century. The name "santa claus" came from the name "saint nicholas" as it was pronounced by the dutch, and taken down as "saintni-cholas" by english people attempting to spell this name. The color red was brought in to Santa's costume by the coca cola companys marketing departmen in the 1930's, but it is coincidentally the "seasonal color" inherited from the sun worshipping Pagans. He flies horned beasts(by sorcery?) through the air at night, and enter homes by means of the fire place- the ancient pagans most sacred spot in their homes the fire place! Who might santa really be?
SATAN & SANTA employ the same letters, and are in almost perfect order right before our eyes, and all we have to do is move the"N". Hes horning into the celebration, but what does he to do with this time of year, even from the pagan perspective? Identifying who he is, and whose birthday December 25th really is, should link up to some conclusions in your mind. He is Nimrod,Baal,Moloch,Zeus,Venus,etc.---and these are all really one deceiving being: Satan
Christmas? Yes, its a birthday observance
Its Satans birthday
Our Christ(messiah) has nothing to do with it, and never has--
Regardless of what christian teachers may tell you, Christmas was NOT a part of what the early United States of America embraced. The first 13 American Colonies all had laws against this satanic observance, and their faith in the messiah was the basis for it. One would be fined and or imprisoned for observing Christmas, because the early American settlers understood that this practice was on of popery's strongest promotions, and that its origins were Pagan(therfore satanic). Popery is tyrannical Nimrodism, and this can be proven to anyone from the book by Alexander Hislip, The Two Babylons.

In understanding that we were never commanded to celebrate the birth of christ, and it is not on dec 25, and that we are commanded not to mix the profane with the holy that is anything to do with our Lord with the world even pagan holidays. This includes Christmas, and Easter. I would recomend studying the feasts of our Lord and begin to celebrating them - for they are shadows of christ. I would aslo recomend studying the biblical calendar and try to live by it.

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Our Lord is calling us to wake up, to be holy, and set apart, a pure and spotless bride, May he help us to be that!

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