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 WHO Will Divide the Land for Gain

WHO Will Divide the Land for Gain by Marianne

So, who would benefit from a division of the land of Israel?

That would be a big clue.

Dan 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge [and] increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

He is not the king of the north (Syria, Assyria) or south (Egypt), because they oppose him.

Dan 11:40 ¶ And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

He also bows to the new international currency system, based on gold and silver.

Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

But back to the division of the land. This is proposed to occur in September, 2011 on the anniversary of 911.

History of the Plan:

On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favour of the Partition Plan, while making some adjustments to the boundaries between the two states proposed by it.

The partition was to take effect on the date of British withdrawal from the Mandate Territory of Palestine.

Passage of the resolution required a two-thirds majority of valid votes (i.e. not counting abstaining and absent members).

Prior to the final vote, when countries indicated their voting intentions, it was evident that the required majority was not available.

The vote would have been: for 30, against 16, abstaining 10 – one short of a two-thirds majority.

Of the permanent members of the Security Council, France, the United States, and the Soviet Union voted for the resolution while the People’s Republic of China and the United Kingdom abstained.

The final vote was as follows:

In favor, (33 countries, 59%):

· 30 countries (54%) initially in favour:

o Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Iceland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukrainian SSR, United States, Soviet Union, Uruguay, Venezuela.

· An additional 3 (5%) switched to in favor:

o Haiti, Liberia, Philippines.

Against, (13 countries, 23%):

· Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.

Abstentions, (10 countries, 18%):

· Argentina, Chile, People’s Republic of China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.

Absent, (1 country, 0%):

· Thailand

One can see that the United States, France and Soviet Union were the main players with the most status that voted for the plan.

Players in the UN effort for September, 2011

It is now 64 years later.

Some changes and similarities are noted

1. there are more Arab states to vote

2. the 3 previous main players are still there

3. The European Union is now an entity

4. The USA, European Union, Russia, France are the Quartet that proposed the roadmap for peace, an update from the Oslo accords

5. Updates have continued to the “land for peace” arrangements.

6. the actual proposed land divisions may or may not end up being the same as in 1947, as “going back to 1967 borders” is proposed.

7. Mahmoud Abbas is the Palestinian leader with the most to gain, and Benjamin Netanyahu is the Israeli leader with the most to lose.

A main question to ask regarding the Daniel prophecy of the antichrist is this:

Who gains from the division of the land?

The answer is obvious: the Palestinians, but does it end there?

This also rules out Israel, who is the loser.

Does anyone else stand to gain from this division?

Going back to pre 1967 borders will invite the same aggression against Israel that occurred in 1967 with the 6 Day War to begin with.

It will also have no control or access to the Temple mount.

In 1967, when the Jews won back the Temple Mount, it was the first time in 2000 years that they could walk on their temple area.

In the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War, after three Arab armies converged on Israel’s nightmarish borders, even the United Nations was forced to recognize that Israel’s pre-1967 Six-Day War borders invited repeated aggression.

This was foretold in Joel:

Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and [for] my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Thus, UN Resolution 242 – which formed the conceptual foundation for a peace settlement – declares that all states in the region should be guaranteed “safe and secure borders.”

If this is the next “peace deal,” then it will not be the final one, because for the sacrifices to cease, they first have to begin, and I do not see this as part of the current talks.

There have been many peace agreements, (covenants with many), but will this be the one Daniel predicted?

Antichrist role

I am thinking the Antichrist would be the main influence in this final decision.

He would also gain much from it.

But does he gain because the land becomes his?
If so, then he is a Palestinian.

If he does not gain the land itself, but still has control over it, then he might be an outsider to Israel borders, but closely involved with the Hamas.

Also, since he puts an end to sacrifices, it would imply that this is not part of his belief system.

He may claim a world food shortage, and the animals should be used for food, not sacrifice.

Since the kings of the North and South oppose him, he is not from those areas.

Daniel also says he is somewhere north of Israel, since he moves south to get there.

Dan 11:29 ¶ At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.

Daniel also indicates he would move south and then east to get to Israel.

Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant [land].

And notice the foreign god that he acknowledges with gold and silver is given rule over “many.”

Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

It is not a coincidence that the new world currency being proposed at this time is also based on gold and silver.

He also has some strange ability to “go up to heaven and cast down stars.”

He has some relationship with the “host of heaven.” And the host is not necessarily made of good entities.

With all the growing evidence of aliens in our midst and future, maybe this is the relationship referred to here.

Or maybe they are real stars, and he can influence them to crash to earth?

Dan 8:10 And it waxed great, [even] to the host of heaven; and it cast down [some] of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

Dan 8:11 Yea, he magnified [himself] even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily [sacrifice] was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

Dan 8:12 And an host was given [him] against the daily [sacrifice] by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.

Marianne’s note:

So somewhere in this world, there is someone ready to make this decision in September, unless it gets delayed.

Hmmm….so who is he?

If this deal in September, 2011 comes with a promise to the Jews that they can re-initiate sacrifices on the temple mount, in exchange for dividing Jerusalem and other areas, then the end has come.

If not, then this is not the right peace deal.

The Palestinians don’t want peace anyhow, evidenced by their current plans for a 3rd intifada. They just want all the Israeli land.

Also, since the USA cannot seem to keep itself from destroying Israel by removing and dividing its land, it may also to back to its original borders as well.

It will not need a world committee, or an antichrist, to accomplish this, because God will do that.

The Jewish nation and the church basically did the same thing to God, they both failed him tremendously. But there has always been a remnant of true, really true christians. Even though Jesus wondered if real faith would be gone when He returned.

With Israel, it is not the time. Why?
it does have to do with the actual building of a temple ON THE TEMPLE Mound…or so I feel. This is also in the end times scripture…sorry don’t have the bible references, but it is there. And that is what will enrage the Muslim population to begin the final war to kill every Jew, and I might add Christian on sight. But he will fail!
Also, there will be those who will speak out against those who would place their ‘strange god’ in such a way as to destroy the birth place of Jesus Christ. The enemy of Christ will try to kill them all off as well, but again, will fail, but not without great sacrifices from many lands…it will be a terrible time…..

main point in it all is this: who do you follow, what do you really believe and who are you willing to die for? If you have all the answers to this, then what is there to fear…it is Satan’s tool to create fear in our hearts, not Gods, so, we need to keep our focus upon doing right, doing our best and helping each other get through these days, one step at a time. Just as we do for each other in floods, fires and tornadoes. WE are learning the lessons to bond with each other through hardship…preparing us for a greater trial…bet no on thought of that one, eh? There is a purpose, even in the eye of the storm. Remember, God also created a rainbow that comes AFTER them too…sooo….there is promise when we know where we are standing…and why.

Preparedness is our greatest tool in these times. But being pre prayed may be also our greatest gift too!
Oh and prayer DOES matter…God can help if we ask Him too! BUT WE HAVE TO ASK Him for our strength and help in our lives.

 2011/5/29 15:02

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