I found it. War on the Saints, pg 50, The Baptism in the Holy Ghost (unabridged edition).
Crusader, I can't read off of computer screens too much, and I don't know if it bothers you either, but here is the Full Text, Unabridged Version. http://www.amazon.com/War-Saints-Full-Text-Unabridged/dp/0913926043/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1303997968&sr=8-2Read some of the comments on Amazon. Lack of experience should not deny what the Word says.We "color" the Word by our experiences or lack of.A777
The entire premise of this thread is SO bogus. imho. Sorry for the bluntness...but it appears to be so! For example, Anonymous777 stated
I find that much of the working of the enemy takes place in the charismatic and pentecostal churches.
9 So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 11 Which of you fathers, if your son asks for[f] a fish, will give him a snake instead? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13 If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!
A777Just trying to get clarification on what this thread is saying. There is a tendancy to overreact to the excesses of spiritual experiences and say they are not valid today. If I read this thread rght it seems that a caution of excessive emphasis on experience is wise. But I would not want to discourage the experience of Christ in a believer's life.
Hi Solomon,Bluntness is ok, no problem.To add clarity, yes, the enemy works in the non-charismatic camp, too. Obviously! There is plenty of deception to go around. Satan does not respect any Christian that opens the door (give place) to him and there are many ways to do this (sin, rebellion). I was saying that those that open themselves up to the supernatural without proper grounding (understanding) in the Word pertaining to the supernatural, and without discernment are opening themselves up to seducing spirits and counterfeit supernatural gifts. Satan is very effective in the churches that deny supernatural gifts, too. He has a different strategy for deceiving and keeping them in the dark. Asking God scripturally for something is completely different from opening yourself up to the supernatural realm. "Abandoning" yourself to the spirit, I believe is one of the terms used. If you abandon yourself to a false spirit of Jesus, you certainly will not receive an egg, fish or loaf of bread. Sincerity is not the protection against lies. I think we can all testify to that. Regarding Jessie, Attacking any messenger of the Lord, does not necessarily disqualify what they have received from God. There are many illustrations of this down through the centuries regarding men and women used mightily by God. Do you want to start talking about dirty laundry of men and women of God? Who would stand up to our scrutiny? Would we listen to anyone? Knowing about Jessie Penn-Lewis's faults or mistakes would not nullify the truths in her book. If our lives were laid out to all in this forum, do you think anyone would listen to us? Blessings to you, too.A777
I have the 1995 abridged edition. Should I get the unabridged instead?
If you want everything she wrote and not what people who disagreed with her, took out. It's up to you. Links are in this thread.
Rather than go through this discussion again - my replies are on this link -http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=37171&forum=40&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0It seems that we can't stress the balance on this topic enough of late. There must be a reason and I feel that the days ahead are that reason - when deceptions coupled with fear will be rampant.The warning of Paul, to not go beyond what is Written certainly was and always will be the order of the day.GOD help us to put down our beliefs and 'experiences' at His Altar - at the feet of The Word of GOD Himself and that which is written. Pray one for another to sacrifice what is not from Him / His Word.
And may the Lord give us more understanding and light.Amen.A777
I am going to update my book. Links are ok but I want the paper version in my hand. I don't have a laptop.