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rookie
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Br. Doug wrote:

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What do you think the mark of the beast will be?



I will in time approach this topic in the thread: Days are Evil. I got ahead of myself in Br. Rahman's thread.

In Christ
Jeff


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Jeff Marshalek

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 Re: Original question

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If you care to please share what you see in our popular culture today that makes you think that we're living in perilous times ... But more importantly what do you think that we as saints individually, and collectively as a church body, can do to counteract the permeating force of darkness that has at least three generations (particularly our youth) blind to the vileness of their sin(s)?



It's not the darkness that bothers me but the lack of light in the body of Christ. There has to be the light of Jesus in how we treat one another, how we handle ourselves our work, etc. The world is dying to see the Christian life lived out among those who are sold out to Him.

That's what Jesus is calling for "to be sold out to Him." In other words, our walk and talk must match.


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 Re: How Does a World Slip into Perilous Times? ...


Brother Jeff,

i guess ranting is something we both might be accused of, but reasoning can't be had in a sound bite ...

In regards to what you wrote about our youth ... amen ... there is a major sea change in the youth of my day (born 1950) to the youth of today ... For one thing my generation, raised by Depression era/WWII parents, most being believers in God, was indoctrinated by them with Christian values, love of family, love of country, respect of community, respect of our fellow man, a better appreciation of the fairer sex, ethics against such evil devices as greed, cheating and stealing, etc ... I didn't do a lot of the bad things i could have done as a child/teen simply because i believed as my Dad always warned, "God see all that you do" ...
i was pretty much governed by this up until i got to be about 17, and then i began to secumb to the call of the world, sex, drugs and music ...

i remember some communist back then making the statement that if just one youth generation in America could be collectively and drastically seduced away from the values values and mores of their parents, then America would fall from within ... It's pretty ironic to think that it actually takes the Godless to see the power of God excercised in the Godly, but that's exactly what satan was able to do in the 60's and 70's ... My generation once thought our parents old fogeys, sticks in the mud, unhip. and so we ignorant of the consequences hedonistically over indulged in the pleasures of sin, only to find out much later past the stupidity of our youth the rot that satan not only had in store for my generation, put the escalating perversion he had in store for those future ... And so here we are today ... in perilous time ...

My generation, the boomers (1946 - 1964), are the ones that turned the society our parents presented to us upside down, and while there were some things that needed to be fixed, there were others that needed to be left as was, such as their closer walk with the Christian faith that defined their ethics, values and morality ... Drugs should have never been let out of the box, as it anesthetized us to our consciences ... Free love, became our chant for rabid immorality ... Make love not war in the 60's, turned right around and became make war, not love in the 90's ... Relatively harmless reefer 50 years later metamorphed into crack cocaine ... Athiest legislated God out of our lives ... Anarchist ate away at any respect left for our public institutions ... Then came Radical Feminism ... Abortion ... Radical homosexuality ... Music went from what seemed like relatively ok Doo-wop, to R&B, Folk, Country, Rock, Hard Rock, Acid Rock, Punk Rock, Punk Funk, Hip-Hop then on to the insidious Gangsta Rap, that has become satans Pied Piper to burn up in lust, materialism, drugs and expensive intoxicating beverages any 30 years old and younger ...

http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=2826&forum=35&post_id=&refresh=Go

... And many may ask, "Where was the Church"? ... i'd say the church of my parents generation were in shock, felt under siege, and perhaps that was the beginning of the church becoming a fortress ... Get behind the walls and hide from their own wicked and misguided children who like those foolish Israelites at the foot of Mt. Sinai threw God to the wind in pagan bacchanalia, worshipping the Golden Calf in degredating sexual promiscuity ... i remember how my parents treated me in my sinfulness, they totally rejected me ... And the church of my generation? ... Well we were out in the world, and though many of us professed Christ no one would ever be able to tell it by our fornications, adulteries, divorces, and unforgivable abandonment of our children ... As i say to anyone in my generation, if you want to know why our world, America, has slipped into perilous times ... just take a good long look into the mirror ... Our children, grandchildren, and if we don't repent to becoming activist for God with the same fervor as we were once activist for satan, our great grandchildren will bring on the Tribulation, just as sure as the wickedness of the folk in Noah's day finally brought on the Flood ...

Well there are lots of burned out, tired, world weary, prodigal boomers whove drug ourselves back to the Father in church today, but of what effect on our children, grand children and the outside dying world? ... Absolutely none! ... We're still the same bunch of spoiled brats we were when we were younger, instead now we've changed our carnal-carnal pursuits in for spiritual-carnal pursuits, seeking first the kingdom of God not for His righteousness, but for all the other things added ... We've traded in the Beatles and the Rolling Stones for the False Prophets of Health and Wealth, while in the meantime our children are seeking thier idols of amusement and entertainment ... The horror of it all is that so many of us still don't see ourselves, i can tell because i still hear so many in my generation sigh, "What's wrong with our children"? ... Like we wouldn't be any different had our parents not trained us up in the way of the LOrd, so that when we finally got old enough to come to our senses in the pigs sty we would come back and not depart from it ...

Our kids are spiritually rudderless, and so it is that satan can grow them up to be ...

- lovers of their own selves,

- covetous,

- boasters,

- proud,

- blasphemers,

- disobedient to parents,

- unthankful,

- unholy,

- Without natural affection,

- trucebreakers,

- false accusers,

- incontinent,

- fierce,

- despisers of those that are good,

- Traitors,

- heady,

- highminded,

- lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;


God please forgive we lousy Christian parents and grandparents, and may you rile and stir up all generations, but my generation especially, from our continued self indulgent complacency to true heartfelt repentance of our being instrumental in bringing to America these perilous times ... May you well up inside of us via your Holy Ghost and use us to tackle so great a problem as our misguided youth ... Revive us dear Lord to every avenue that You wish to address in these perilous times, till You are satisfied to catch Your Bride away to our our marriage ... In Your precious name Lord Jesus i pray ... Save our children, in spite of us ... Amen

 2004/11/18 18:13Profile









 Brother Jeff

I know in my spirit what you are saying in regards to the Scripture AND Kingdom living, and I agree with you.
In Him,
Neil

 2004/11/18 21:32
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 Re: A Few Good Sermons ...


May the Holy Spirit bless you in the hearing of these eye opening, life changing sermons! ...

The Last Days: Perilous Times
9/24/2000 (SUN) · 2 Timothy 3
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=&sermonID=WMUU0000000420
When this sermon was first given America was 1 trillion dollars in debt, now it's 7.4 trillion ... Would you say the national debt is perilous?

A Preacher For Perilous Times
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=&sermonID=123101124728

2 Timothy: Perilous People in Perilous Times
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=&sermonID=5804143623

 2004/11/19 12:51Profile
rookie
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 Re:

Br. Rahman wrote:

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The horror of it all is that so many of us still don't see ourselves, i can tell because i still hear so many in my generation sigh, "What's wrong with our children"? ... Like we wouldn't be any different had our parents not trained us up in the way of the LOrd, so that when we finally got old enough to come to our senses in the pigs sty we would come back and not depart from it ..



Our children see our lives differently than we do. My children observe and anaylize everything we as parent do. Recently, I brought my children to work with me and that particular day they saw two incidents which caused them trouble. First they saw me get angry with an electrical foreman, and then they witnessed me making a decision about a project which was not the best solution. I decided to take a short cut. These incidents become the substance of what they themselves begin to immitate. If dad does it, it is okay for me to immitate him.

Well needless to say, I later had to talk about the mistakes that I made that day. And my son replied: " I know when I am making mistakes because there is always a voice that warns me." Our children are so more intune with God than we are because our hearts are hard. We don't want to hear what He has to say. We just do it as the world does it.

My kids are 9 and 11 years old. The Lord is with them, it is us that they have to fear.

In Christ
Jeff


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