I don't want to hijack the thread and take it off topic. However it seems to me that your question needs to be answered.
Rainman may I suggest you quit listening to what the self proclaimed "knowledgable experts" say and actually let the so called "word of faith" persons words speak for themselves. In fact the term, "word of faith", was used by the Holy Spirt through the Apostle Paul and is where the term originally came from.
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;Romans 10:8 KJV In its context it says...
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
The term itself is a Biblical one. I must agree that there are some guys out there called word of faith that are certainly in error on some different points. I certainly don't endorse error..however it is often just the persons perception that there is an error.Often it is not actually a reality they are making judgment against. Their judgements of "heresy and error" are often simply false accusations based upon ignorance of actual facts in the situation. However, there is the tendency to label someone "Word of faith" and then condemn them as heretics by the self proclaimed "holy righteous and without error" heresy hunters.... kind of a modern day Spanish Inquisition group out on a witch hunt.
As an example I have seen posts lambasting Kenneth Hagin as a dangerous raging heretic. Nothing could be farther from the truth. In fact if you want to actually see what he taught day in and day out on prosperity please read his book The Midas Touch...until then please reserve judgement...I think you will find almost NOTHING you have read or heard from others is true.
Your original question was...Are Word of Faith people even born again/saved? I post the following from Kenneth Hagin Ministries statement of faith. I heard him preach these very truths myself on MANY occasions...It is no small thing that there are those who will post great accusations against this man when he preached the new birth under the belief systems below. The belief statements below are taken verbatim from the Rhema Doctrinal Statement...
MAN, HIS FALL AND REDEMPTIONMan is a created being, made in the likeness and image of God, but through Adams transgression and fall, sin came into the world. The Bible says ...all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God, and ...There is none righteous, no, not one (Rom. 3:10; 3:23). Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was manifested to undo the works of the devil and gave His life and shed His blood to redeem and restore man back to God (Rom. 5:14; 1 John 3:8).
Salvation is the gift of God to man, separate from works and the Law, and is made operative by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, producing works acceptable to God (Eph. 2:810).
ETERNAL LIFE AND THE NEW BIRTHMans first step toward salvation is godly sorrow that worketh repentance. The New Birth is necessary to all men, and when experienced, produces eternal life (2 Cor. 7:10; John 3:35; 1 John 5:12).
HELL AND ETERNAL RETRIBUTIONThe one who physically dies in his sins without accepting Christ is hopelessly and eternally lost in the lake of fire and, therefore, has no further opportunity of hearing the Gospel or repenting. The lake of fire is literal. The terms eternal and everlasting, used in describing the duration of the punishment of the damned in the lake of fire, carry the same thought and meaning of endless existence as used in denoting the duration of joy and ecstasy of saints in the Presence of God (Heb. 9:27; Rev. 19:20).
Is that not plain enough? Do not believe all of what you hear about "word of faith". Much of it is simply false accusation...and those spewing it will ultimately answer for being a false accuser of the bretheren and God's children.
Hey Rainman..if you read the entire post I appreciate your willingness to be open minded and research for truth.
Have a blessed day!