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 TRUE REPENTANCE FOR THE GERMAN AND THE JEW -- Art Katz



Art Katz is ministering this week in Germany. From Monday Oct 11 through Wednesday the 13th he will be in Bielefeld (evening meetings at the university). From Friday the 15th through Sunday the 17th he will be in Bad Nauheim at Harvest Moon: Mobilization of Nations Conference.

The following message was spoken in Nuremburg, Germany in June, 1999 on the heels of attending a conference held in Berlin, Germany that had as its theme "Prayer for Israel."
Sensing that something was amiss, the Lord stirred in Art another kind of note that probed the issue of what true repentance means for the German. Instead of seeking relief from the guilt of the Holocaust in some kind of self-serving way, we need to be reminded that God recognizes only one kind of repentance for all people and for all ages, the fruit of which can be known in how we respond to the Jew in our midst.

[u][b]True Repentance for the German and the Jew[/b][/u]

[i]"Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand"[/i]

These words, spoken first by John the Baptist and then by Jesus Himself, are inexorably joined both then and now. We cannot speak of the Kingdom without speaking of repentance. There is no entry into the Kingdom without repentance. So we have the reality of the Kingdom to the degree that we have authentic repentance, and it is not a once and for all repentance. It is a continual state of being and more rightly a state of death. True repentance is the awesome acknowledgment of God as He in fact is and not as we thought Him to be. Before [i][b]that[/b][/i] holy presence, no man dare lift his head.

God described Job as being righteous and the foremost among men. God boasted on him, and yet at the end of God’s dealings with him, the same man cries out, "I have heard of You with the hearing of my ear, but now my eye sees, and I abhor myself and repent in dust and ashes." This is classic and definitive, and we fall grievously short of [i][b]that[/b][/i] kind of repentance. For this reason the Kingdom does not come. It is the ultimate expression of God in glory, and it requires the most profound coming down of man before it.

What does it mean to repent in dust and ashes? What does that symbolically represent, having gone under the ground in burial? It means that there is no place for me other than to be buried. Job had glimpsed God as He was and there was no place for him as man but in death. And God received that statement from Job, and He told Job to pray for his friends and comforters, for His anger was kindled against them. They had not spoken as His servant Job had spoken. Though their statements in themselves were sublimely spiritual and deep in understanding, yet they still failed. There is only one statement that God will receive from man, namely, "I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes."

I doubt whether there is a nation today in which the issue of repentance is more important than Germany. That nation lives continually under the shadow of their historic past. It seems that they will never be washed from the stain of the Holocaust. And yet there is continual reference to the theme of repentance toward the Jew and toward Israel on the part of the German church. As a Jewish believer, however, I am not impressed, and the more I hear these appeals to repentance and witness the character of it, the more uncomfortable I feel in the inner man. Something is wrong with this kind of repentance, and one of the evidences of which is the continual need to reiterate it. How often are we going to feel sorry for the same thing? I believe that we have not rightly understood repentance. ‘Feeling sorry’ falls short of the true thing. I have the distinct impression that German saints are wanting some kind of emotional and psychological relief. They go to conferences in the hope of it and seem to need so desperately to experience it. There is a word for this in psychology. They want catharsis. They want relief for a burden of guilt that has not been met in any other way.

I began to ponder this before the Lord and came up with some thoughts as to the falsity of this kind of repentance. Maybe it has to do with not correctly understanding the issue of guilt. It assumes that Germany is the cause of the Holocaust against the Jew. If that is our understanding, then we will never be relieved. It misses the truth of the Holocaust itself. The magnitude of that tragedy is beyond the issue of German complicity. If we were students of God’s dealings in history with Israel, we would be able to distinguish between these two things, namely, the judgments that God brings and the rod that He employs. Nazi Germany was the rod of God’s chastisement, but the cause was Jewish sin itself both historically and presently. The sins of our fathers has never been recognized or acknowledged. The cries of the prophets were never heard nor repented for, and our sin accumulates and gathers weight. Though God may deter in bringing His judgment, He is not under obligation to bring it immediately, but bring it He will in His own time and for His own purpose. .....





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2. The Holocaust was judgment in exact proportion to Jewish sin even in Germany. In our Jewish history in Germany we had substituted German civilization for God’s messianic answer. We encouraged German rationalism that is offended by the supernatural God and had its final expression in "God is dead" theology. God’s judgments are always in proportion to our sins. When Eichmann was tried in Jerusalem, the prosecuting attorney, Gideon Haussner, wrote in his memoirs that a man’s sin or crime or that of a nation may go for a long time unattended, but there must come a time when the culprit is apprehended and the righteous judgment inflicted. So had it come for Eichmann many years after the Nazi time. The Scriptures admonish us that our sins will assuredly find us out. It found us Jews out in the Holocaust. Germany happened to be the rod of our chastisement not least because of our celebration of German culture. There was no segment of the German population than Jews that was more enthusiastic for Goethe, Schiller, Kant, Fichter and Hegel. We could not believe that a ‘Hitler’ could come to power. Germany was too civilized we thought, but that nation finally became the rod of our judgment.

To feel guilty, therefore, as the cause of the Holocaust is a false guilt and one that God would not have the German to assume. That does not mean that Germany is absolved of all responsibility. That nation is still the rod of God’s chastisement, but it was a [i][b]willing[/b][/i] rod. This is the thing that needs acknowledgment and repentance. There is a deeper sin than the Holocaust, and God is yet waiting for this repentance. He will not therefore honor Germany’s false repentance. He will not give them the relief they want. The German sin is exactly the same as the Jewish sin. This sin is the [i]betrayal of the true faith [/i] by both Christians and Jews in taking our inheritance in God and domesticating it. We are both guilty of making it a ‘Saturday’ or a ‘Sunday’ culture that would not threaten [i][b]our[/b][/i] real interests and yet allow us a modicum of religiosity. [i][b]That[/b][/i] is the sin.

We both took the apostolic faith and made it some kind of addendum to our busy life, not just in our liberal Christianity but also in our orthodox. It is nothing less than the misuse of God for man’s own purposes and ends. It is ultimate idolatry because it is performed in the name of God and thinks that it is even doing Him service. To seek psychological relief, therefore, through repentance is to continue in that same sin. [i][b]We[/b][/i] remain the object of our religious life [i][b]our[/b][/i] relief, [i][b]our[/b][/i] satisfaction, [i][b]our[/b][/i] happiness. It is the way it has always been and its character yet remains, even in its charismatic and evangelical forms. We have not seen this as the misuse of God and repented. We have framed our religious lives in which our personal and selfish interests are foremost. We have no interest in a ‘Kingdom come.’ We would rather have a religious accommodation and sanctify the purposes of the State by giving its imperialist ambitions a little religious aura. This is not only Germany’s sin but also the sin of nations everywhere.

There is a repentance for which God is waiting that has nothing to do with our relief but His. We have offended against Him since time memorial. The salt is rubbed into the wound all the more by the fact that we are Jews and Christians who share together the same mentality of a religious convenience that serves the purposes of man and is entirely indifferent to the purposes of God.
If the church in Germany (or anywhere) wants to repent toward Israel, it would be due to its failure to make known to its ‘Israel’ in their midst the reality of her own Messiah and God. We allowed the Jew to coexist side by side and to have their own religious institutions, thereby giving validity to the synagogue as a religious reality and not a statement of continuing Jewish apostasy from God. Is there any nation in Europe that has had a longer Jewish presence than Germany and has so little affected them by their witness? The church has a direct mandate in Scripture, [i]"This gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek."[/i] We are guilty of having consciously circumvented God’s priority and order. We inwardly sense that the Jew is intimidating and intellectual, and therefore an obedience to this command is one that we safely leave alone. The only one who would dare bring the gospel to the Jew is that one who is truly repentant and broken. The one who has descended into death, which is what repentance is in the burial of the inadequate, religious life, does not therefore need Jewish approval. Only he can bear the offense of the gospel itself.
The church of Germany had not and still has not maintained an apostolic witness to that people whom God has placed in their midst. It is a betrayal of the Kingdom and has never been recognized or acknowledged as sin and therefore continues still. The scandal of the Jew is not something that polite Christianity can afford, be it German or any other. A Christianity that is polite is not Christian. It is a contradiction in terms. The very nature of the faith is radical and will always bring upon itself reproach. It is a reproach for which German Christians have been unwilling.





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3. Paul could say that he would rather be accursed for his brethren’s sake. He was not crying out because he was Jewish, but because he was an apostle. The grief he was expressing was not some ethnic identification, but that of the High Priest and Apostle of our faith Himself. If that is true, then there is a possibility of an identification with the Jewish people that is beyond sentiment. It is the deep, heart cry of God Himself, for which we are willing to forfeit our own salvation. Paul was crucified with Christ and therefore in union with Him, and that is what made his cry true. His repentance was authentic. Everything that he celebrated as a man died with him, and therefore he could be raised to newness of life. For Paul, to live was Christ. What then is our excuse? What expression of the resurrection life, which bears the grief of God for Israel and the courage to express it, is not available to us also? Everything depends on the reality of our repentance.

How should we expect apostolic reality for the church that is very much alive unto itself and has never repented unto death but wants only relief? How can it ever come into this reality corporately and individually when it is itself the [i][b]object[/b][/i] of its own consideration? The issue of the Jew searches us out and has always revealed the true condition of the church. There is something about the unbelieving Jew that reveals our secret heart. It shows us where in fact we are, not only with regard to them, but also with regard to God.

A really repentant German Christian will tell Israel their sins and Jacob their transgressions. Isaiah’s cry was that we should not hold back, but rather that we should lift our voices like a trumpet and tell Israel of its sin and Jacob of its transgressions. In other words, we need to make known that the Holocaust was not some momentary, historical aberration but the calculated judgment of God. It had been promised in Scripture in Deuteronomy and Leviticus of what would befall us in the Last Days if we would not acknowledge our transgressions and that of our fathers. The sword would pursue us. There would be terror for us and that God would not avert it or [i][b]He is not God[/b][/i]. Jesus spoke of a yet future judgment and that there would never be anything again like it. It will eclipse all of the suffering of the past, even the Nazi Holocaust itself, and if that time were not cut short, no flesh would survive. Who will tell Jacob their transgressions and that they will suffer again for their unrecognized transgression?

Instead of coming out of the Holocaust broken and repentant, and asking why we suffered it and why God was silent, we adopted the motto, "Never again." We never saw it as the judgment of God, and that what we suffered was in exact proportion to our sins and the sins of our fathers. There has been no covering or remission for those sins, no Levitical priesthood, no place of sacrifice and no shedding of blood. We have experienced two thousand years of accumulated Jewish sin, open and naked to the retribution of the powers of darkness who are only too happy to inflict the judgment and take a malicious delight in so doing.

Who is there who contradicts us Jews and who is there who warns us? Who shows us the Word of God of the judgments that have come and the judgments that will come? Only a church that really loves us and who wants to save us from the eternal fire will speak a warning. Such a warning will not be appreciated or understood. It will likely invite angry reprisal. So long as we condescend to the Jew and don’t want to offend and try to seek a reconciliation that never comes, nor can it come, is only serving [i][b]our[/b][/i] emotional need. It offers nothing to the Jew of any redemptive kind and confirms them in their understanding of themselves as victim. They see themselves as victim of the church’s failure and the bankruptcy of Christianity. The Jew has no consciousness of any sin that would require the magnitude of judgment that was laid on them in the Holocaust. Only those who have the courage to speak to us the truth can save them from the judgment that is to come both in time and eternity.

The resurrected Christ to whom all authority has been given in Heaven and in earth and the ultimate prophet, who is truth as well as love, would not withhold Himself. He would rather suffer the death of their disappointment. He would rather suffer the pain of their rejection. He did it two thousand years ago in His own body and He will do it now in ours, that we would be able to say with Paul, [i]"For me, to live is Christ." [/i] The Church is guilty of living beneath the resurrection life while yet applauding itself by endorsing the [i][b]doctrine[/b][/i], but having no necessity for its reality. We can conduct services and programs so long as we have [i][b]our own [/b][/i]satisfaction for our purpose and being. But to take the apostolic mandate of God earnestly will compel us to say with Paul, [i]"Who is sufficient for these things?"[/i] A church that is ‘sufficient’ in itself is outside the faith. It is already apostate and does not know it.

Only by Jesus’ life could Paul’s apostolic burden for his brethren after the flesh be known. Only by that Life could he have the courage to express it and suffer the rejection that it must bring. Only by that Life can we show the Jew in our midst the difference between mere religion and authentic spirituality. Too long have they seen a cultural Christianity not much better than their own Judaism. We are called to move Israel to jealousy, and Paul does not explain what that means. He sees it though as a critical purpose for our life as the church. To move to jealousy the enemies of the gospel is an ultimate requirement, and the church that can answer it is indeed the church. We can only become such a church out of true repentance. We need an awareness of our terrible, historical failure and its present failure still.

[i]"Woe is me, I am undone!"[/i] Out of that death will come the Life that will move Jews to jealousy. We will find that we are compelled by the love of Christ that cannot keep silent. When they see that you are willing to risk their censure, condemnation and painful rejection, then that very courage alone has the potential to move them to jealousy. They will know that it is beyond religion; it is very God Himself.






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4. [i]Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand!”[/i]This requires a valid baptism, one that is a real burial, because our history and present life has persuaded us that in ourselves there is no man good. Even our best intentions are not good enough. Only Christ, the Resurrected One, as our life consistently is our answer, and God has provided the means. A baptism that is more than a religious ordinance is a burial of that which needs to be brought to death. Who will enter those waters? And if there is no resurrection after [i][b]that[/b][/i] burial, we of all men are most to be pitied. Let us not think that we can go back to our jobs, our businesses, our hopes for the future and all of the nice amenities of our present life. We have no hope. We have died to that. This is a newness of life and it is radical. It has one motivation only, namely, the glory of God and not our convenience. We have practiced a Christianity of convenience, and it has left a great vacuum, as it necessarily must, and into that unreality came demonic Nazism. We made it possible and provided the vacuum into which this evil came as a flood.

If there is no reality of God, the reality of Satan will quickly enter in. Nazism is our fault. Respectable and polite Christianity not only made it possible, but also inevitable. The kind of Christianity that we thought was polite and humane becomes ironically exactly its opposite. Be assured, our sins will find us out, and it will express itself in the most bestial forms of human behavior. God is not mocked and whatsoever a nation sows, that too will it reap.

There is no understanding of what is Jewish independent of what is German. We have affected each other and shaped a common culture in our conspiracy against God and against His King, and we have both suffered for it. What will it mean for a German church now that does not seek its own emotional relief, but will find a place of true repentance and broken-ness, not only for itself, but also for its fathers? We are not to think that we would have done any better than they had we lived in the Nazi time. There is no man good, no not one. God is waiting for that repentance and the laying down of that life. The evidence of the truth of it is that we will find a new ability and a burning passion to tell Jacob of its sins and Israel of its transgressions.

The church that can warn the Jew of the judgment to come is alone qualified to speak of the restoration that will follow. They are the only ones who can speak comfort to a people who will have suffered double for their sins. Jews do not need some kind of sentimental pat on the back, but a comfort that is by the Spirit and God’s own word in the [i][b]midst[/b][/i] of their judgment by a people who do not withhold and do not spare. They speak the word of judgment and call Israel to the recognition of its sin, and so they will also speak the word of comfort that will be a comfort indeed. It will be the same comfort that we will know who have been raised out of death unto newness of life and can rejoice in Christ Jesus as Savior and Deliverer. We can comfort them with the same comfort with which we have been comforted, if indeed we have been comforted and our religious life is not a fraud.

The church’s sin is Israel’s sin, and it is exactly the same sin. We will not charge them with their sins from some place of superiority, but from the place of broken-ness. It is the priestly place that is able to speak to a sinning people as those who know their own sins are exactly as Israel’s. A church that is willing to come [i][b]under[/b][/i] the Jewish people in a priestly service, not seeking anything for themselves, will alone be a blessing for Israel. I cannot think of any single message that Germany needs more to hear. God’s purpose for Germany is not its imperial ambition. Nor has this ambition ever died. When the historic reconciliation between West and East Germany came, I personally did not rejoice. Something in my inner man was disturbed, and now we will see again the true Germany in its ambition and power, and it will likely once again betray God’s call to be a priestly nation to the people Israel.

Israel will need once again to be restored to Zion out of her soon-coming calamity as the redeemed of the Lord. Their redemption ushers in the Lord’s coming, and His coming is His Kingdom in which nations will no longer study war again. The Jew is not just another ethnic people. They are at the heart of God’s theocratic design. For only with [i][b]their[/b][/i] return will the Law go forth out of Zion. The church in Germany could do nothing more for the nations than effecting Israel’s true restoration, that [i][b]she[/b][/i] might bless all the families of the earth. And all the nations will know that the God of Jacob is alone God. That is the church in Germany’s task, but it can only be accomplished by a people whom He has raised from the dead because they have truly repented for their sins.

The Holocaust is for Germany what the crucifixion is for Israel. Our Jewish sin is not the crucifixion of Jesus, but the summation of [i][b]all[/b][/i] our sins and our long history of apostasy and our rejection of the prophets who were sent to us. When the Lord Himself came, we could not recognize Him. We were offended by Him and ‘had’ to crucify Him. He was the summation of our sin and not the sin in itself. So also is the Holocaust for Germany. It is not the sin in itself. It is the summation of all their sin through all their generations in converting the radical faith into a domestic addendum and a Sunday convenience. We need to repent for our fathers and for ourselves, for nothing has changed, and God will not honor false repentance that seeks only our relief. He waits for this recognition and this death that He might be all in all. Israel’s destiny is at stake, and it waits for a repentant church in Germany. The nation that cast Israel into the physical fires is the same nation intended by God to save the Jew from the eternal fire of God’s judgment. The German church has a destiny and a mandate that is unfulfilled, but can only be fulfilled in the power of His life in union with Him, both in death and in resurrection.
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May all who are so led be in prayer for Art this week.


The 1999 event is referred to in audio tape K-126, The Origin of True Preaching, and is available at www.benisrael.org.


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Priestly ministry, repentance as it truly expresses itself, eventuates and comes to pass before the Lord as He pleases. His heart finds satisfaction in the nature and the work of the Son who lives for ever to pray, and thereby brings His salvation to a point of completeness. The ones who come to rest in and with His work will be made able to take part in this priestly activity.
Let us take part in this kind of waiting before the Lord together with the dear friends in Germany.
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Something needs to be said and done to strengthen the positions in our societies, as to a defence against a growing anti-semitism.
Ministering before the Lord to find proper ways to pray is a necessity.
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"A PIECE OF DIVINE HISTORY"


Art is scheduled to minister today, tomorrow and Sunday in Bad Nauheim,
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The following is the last eighteen minutes of the tape, The Origin of True Preaching, recorded some time after his 1999 visit to Nuremberg, Germany:




Is this real, is this actual or is it a a poetic figure of speech? Is there actually a place where we can hear and enter and receive the counsel of God and bear it before men as God’s own word? There is a place which God has established through the blood of Jesus which is a new and living way that gives us priestly [i]entre [/i] into the secret place of God’s own Presence. And He even tells us in Exodus 25 when He gave Moses the pattern on the mount of the tabernacle of God, concerning the Holiest Place of All: “Build a mercy seat and cherubim whose wings touch, and there I will meet with you above the mercy seat and between the cherubim, and there I will speak to you in instruction and commandment for the sons of Israel.” …. Folks, it’s not some publicly available thing that’s cheap. This is of the things that are withheld and kept by God. It’s not for the one who gazes cheaply or for the religionist who wants to employ it for the promotion of himself.

The entrance into the Holiest Place of All is held for those who will come before Him in the right disposition and spirit—not because of any qualification they have in themselves—but because of the blood of Jesus. That’s “the new and living way”, but how many of us in this room now have ever been there? Or think and have the faith to believe that this is more than a poetic figure? But that this is actually almost the heart of the matter and that there is an actual place of which the earthly tabernacle was only a shadow pointing to the greater reality which is in heaven—that there is a “Holiest Place of All” that was closed to all except the High Priest of ancestral derivation from the Levitical tribe, but now is available to any believer, by the blood of Jesus, to come into the Holiest Place of All and to bow and to wait and to be before the Shekinah Presence of God who hovers still above the mercy seat and between the the wings of the cherubim, and He says, “There I will commune with you.” And, “there I will give unto you instruction for the sons of Israel.”

So I just want to say I believe in my naïve faith there is such a place, and it waits on a faith to believe for it to have entry into it and to believe in the efficacy of the blood, not only for the forgiveness of sins, but for the right of entry into the Holiest Place of All. For we dare not come in our own naked humanity and innate unrighteousness whose transgressions and iniquity is ever before us. How dare we come into the Presence of the Most High in that condition? But by the blood of Jesus, and in the Son and in His priesthood we can come. And it’s not a once-and-for-all, but as often as we will.

So can you believe on the last night of the meeting at Nuremberg, Germany, the city so celebrated by Hitler for his pagan Nazi rallies—of what to speak that will conclude your final statement for those days, without any assurance that there’ll ever be a return to Germany. Or any other place, and that there’s a statement that God would bring—that if you sought Him in prayer—in Nuremberg, and in the home where you’re staying and in the attic where you’re placed, that you can have access in that place on the cold, drafty floor at five a.m. into the secret counsels of God in heaven and receive there inspiration, disposition and encouragement for the word to be spoken later that night many hours after your early-morning prayer time, where, though you’re quickened and excited by the flush of a consciousness that came to you that by the time your speaking comes so many hours later at night and looking out on to the congregation it feels like a figment of your imagination. It’s dissipating away; it has lost its credibility and you wonder if that indeed that was the word of the Lord. Because now it seems so inappropriate, but at five a.m. it seemed like, “Wow!” Will you guard against them tomorrow on the basis of what you have seen and received in the early morning hours? “The just shall live by their faith.” And if the prophet is not a man of faith to believe—which means to act on the basis of what he believes, we’re finished.

So this is nothing less than a dying. The hour has come. You’re being introduced and you’re being called up onto the platform and you look out on the sea of charismatic faces that would be much happier with a false word that would confirm them where they presently are as against the word that you believe God has quickened in the early morning hours out of the secret place. And you have a choice to make in your freedom of which of the two things you will speak and address. It’s mortifying and fraught with fear of the prospect of rejection and failure—every time. But, “obedience unto death”; and the gratifying thing was, at least on that occasion, where the word has such a cogency, such as power … I told you before that the wife of the pastor who never liked me because she leads the worship and there was always an unspoken kind of tension between us because I was not gung-ho for all that whipped-up stuff, she said, “From the moment your mouth opened, your word was like a sword.” The inspiration came, I believe, from the Holy Place—from the secret place.

But you’ve got to believe that you’re there in the realm of spirit while your knees are on the floor in an attic upstairs, in Nuremberg. There’s such a disjuncture between what you believe by the Spirit and what you’re experiencing physically. There’s a cold draft on the floor; you’re conscious of your discomfort; it’s a ridiculously early hour; you’re tired, you’re out of it, your mind is dull. Can you believe, in that physical condition and setting, and where you in fact are actually—more significantly than Nuremberg—is heaven? And that the issue of your believing will determine what people will receive that night not only as the congregation, but as the key for a word coming through that congregation into the entire nation of Germany itself. That word was of that kind that my interpreter, Klaus, whom I’ve known for twenty-five to thirty years, who has been with me in every circumstance, even fishing here with me in -------Lake where he turned over the boat when he pulled the hook too vigorously out of the mouth of a fish and we both ended up—and that man has heard me time and time again and translated everything, broke down three times. I had to wait for him to recover, to go on. That’s how much it was the word of the Lord.

Everything that I’m saying, believe me, is not in any way to draw attention to myself, but the purpose of this school is that I have an experience and a history over course of time, in radical life-and-death situations, where a nation is concerned because Germany is not just Germany. Germany is God’s ultimate key to Israel’s last days’ redemption. Because didn’t God say in Flushing, Queens, New York in the late 1960s when I was a missionary to the Jews and praying with a German brother in a moment of time that “the nation which has cast My people into the fires of physical destruction is the nation that will keep them from the fire of an eternal judgment”? Didn’t God say that? Doesn’t Germany have a significant destiny with regard to Israel because God spoke that all those years before, and is this not now an occasion now where something can be transacted that will effect that fulfillment? In a word, I’m saying “the stakes are enormous”, and there you are in your BVDs five o’clock in the morning on the attic floor in a picture of complete foolishness and frailty and complete consciousness of your terrible humanity. And yet you’re going to bear that word before men that will affect a nation, that will affect Israel and the establishment of the Kingdom of God through their restoration, and the Lord’s own coming.

It could not be more loaded. The weight could not have been greater, And the whole thing comes to pass in the word that will issue out of your mouth. If the word says, “let not many be teachers,” what shall we say about ‘let not many be prophets’ where every temptation is to be false? Because this is not only inconvenience; this is death. And what if, instead of the people at the end pouring out of their seats and stretching out like dead people and groaning before God under conviction—what if they had continued to sit, like this, and had been visibly unaffected, and your word was without effect and you had believed it to be the word of God? Can you go on, or will you leap out of a window, or call it quits; because there’s no assurance of anything visible to confirm that it’s God’s word or that you have been faithful and obedient. You might right to the last moment have cause to think that you have missed it. There’s no guarantee, and the prophetic man has to live with either possibility.

It’s only the grace of god that I had the joy of seeing the visible effect of that word. I have had many more occasions, under auspices of exactly the same kind, where the issues were as great, and where I had believed that I sought the Lord in the Holy Place, through the rent veil, equally, where there was no visible response—but hard looks of disappointed faces. And you have to be able to bear the one with the other. If your obedience to God is predicated on the gratification that comes from seeing the visible effect of your word, you will be disqualified and made a candidate for what is false, for the false thing will always guarantee a pleasant response from men. The issue of the prophet is the issue of the Cross. So …

I think we need to end on that note for now. And let [i]this[/i] word not return to the Lord void. More has been transacted right now over this table—the Lord has been building this morning and through these days—than we can even begin to perceive. Who knows who these men are and what their destinies and callings are? What about the tapes that are going forth? What about the transcriptions that might come from this that will be translated into Chinese and other languages and touch men in distant nations and raise up in those nations authentic prophetic men for this final hour because of what we are discussing now? And that word will not return to Him “void”.

Show me a bored Christian, and I’ll show you a man out of the faith.

“So, Lord, what shall we say? That You’ve used this school and these men and women You’ve gathered up to be a matrix, a womb, for the bringing forth of statements of a kind that I have never heard—in a depth and an acuteness beyond anything that I’ve shared before. Being brought into a new dimension of severity and sharpness, because the hour is much later now than it was before and the stakes ar greater. And so we ask You to watch over Your word that You will perform it. Let there be a birthing of authentic prophetic men and women because of the word that was gestated that has gone forth over these tables today in distant lands as well as our own. Even to the Indian nations that will effect things my God to touch both time and eternity. Seal it, perform it, let it not return to You void according to Your own word. Bless these children here, Lord, as that word moves through their whole being and is brought to their consciousness and they weigh up and consider the implications of it. And “faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God”? Then I ask for a concomitant faith to the word that has gone forth.

[i]“ If the word was about the veil and the Holy Place and the veil that’s rent and the access by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way, let there now be a faith born by that word to attain that entry and to avail themselves of that access[/i] that they might receive the counsel of the Lord in the council of God in the Holy Place, and that the earth, as well as your people, might again hear a true word from God—where there is everywhere else a famine.

Thank You, Lord, O seal this, My God, as [i][b]a piece of divine history[/b][/i] beyond class, that You have chosen in the poverty of this place and its nothingness to be the auspices of something birthed in here in point of time full of ramifications till the day of Your appearing and beyond. We bless You. Thank You Lord. Seal it. Teach us how to walk the rest of this day out. A fast day You’ve chosen to bring this to us, undistractedly and in quiet free from chores and labors and other things of pots and pans and just to let Your word filter into our souls into our spirit into our thoughts into our consciousness. And change us. For [i]Your[/i] word, when it is Your word, is beyond instruction, beyond inspiration. [i]It is necessarily an event.[/i] And we want that event. And we’re desperately in need of the event of God’s word. And we
receive it as event. And we thank You and give You the praise. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.”





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Roger P.

 2004/10/15 7:05Profile





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