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 sinning against an infinite worthy God

Has anyone ever don a study on this topic or heard anyone preach on this, what is the best explanation you have heard on us humans not only sinning but sinning against an infinite God, a perfect and majestic God who created all things. Basically the question is like how can you describe what it means to sin against an infinite holy God and how can we understand it if we can at all?


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 Re: sinning against an infinite worthy God

well in looking for the answer i might have found it, check out this answer by polemos ministries

The Infinite Savior

In Psalm 51:4 King David weeps very bitterly to the Lord, “Against You, You only have I sinned”

This is a most remarkable statement considering the fact that he had just committed adultery, taken the wife of one of his most faithful soldiers and arranged to have this faithful soldier killed on the battlefield. King David sinned against Uriah, Bathsheba, his own family and his entire kingdom, but yet he says to the Lord “Against You, You only have I sinned”? How could he say such a thing?

The answer to this perplexing question lies in the very nature of God Himself. Sin derives its definition and wrongness from God. Sin is what it is in light of who God is and sin does not exist apart from Him. Sin is not a standard over God and above God that exists apart from God. God does not look to the standard of sin to see what is right or wrong, but rather God defines the standard. God is ultimate and God tells us what things are sin and what things are not sin. If there’s no God, if there isn’t any ultimate being who defines sin, then sin simply does not exist.

But there is a God, and He has defined sin and righteousness for us. He is the ultimate, final authority and He is the standard. He is the Law maker and Judge. Therefore any sin that we commit is against Him and against His authority as the one and only Lawgiver. When we break His law we are assailing Him as Judge. Any lack of conformity to His Law is an attack upon Him and rebellion against Him. Sin is mutiny of the worst kind; the wicked act of the creature trying to usurp the throne and authority of the Creator.

Sin is ultimately therefore against God. But perhaps the most fearful thought in this regard is this: Sin is against an eternal and infinite God: Let that sink in for a moment…. Sin is against an eternal and infinite God. This being the case our sin takes on an eternal and infinite character that we cannot get rid of.

Think about this: God is infinite (limitless) and we are finite (limited), when we sin against an infinite God we accrue an infinite amount of guilt and our sin takes on an infinite quality that we as finite creatures cannot remove. We cannot expunge it no matter how hard we try. We cannot atone for it and we cannot go back in time and undo it. As far as our own ability is concerned, we are irrevocably joined to our sins and their guilt. We cannot extricate ourselves from their permeating grip; we are trapped and completely helpless to free ourselves from them.

We have dishonored God and cannot give Him His honor back, we have robbed Him of the glory that is due Him and we cannot make restitution. We have broken His law and cannot un-break it. As long as God exists, the guilt of our sin exists. And as long as God exists we remain finite law breakers who cannot absorb the punishment that we deserve.
At this point many will appeal to the love of God. They heard somewhere that God is love, and they believe that God must be love, so with this in mind they bank their eternal souls on this assumption: God is love and therefore He will overlook the sins that I have committed.

But in reality even the attribute of God’s love is, in one sense, turned against us as sinners: Because God is perfectly good and loves what is good, He must hate what is not good; and sin is not good. Because God is perfect love and loves what is lovable and most worthy of love, He must hate what is contrary to love; and mutinous self-centered sin is contrary to love. And because God is perfectly just and loves what is perfectly just, He must hate what is unjust; and sin is unjust. He must punish every sin or He Himself becomes unjust and a lover of what is wrong. He then would become unloving and a hater of His own attributes. Far from stteing us free from the wrath of God, His love in some ways only serve to compound our problem. We are truly in a dilemma!

This is the greatest problem that all of mankind faces; we are finite creatures who owe our Creator an infinite debt and our sin cries out for even His love and goodness to punish us fully for our lawless rebellion, what are we to do?

Who can pay an infinite debt? There is only one answer dear reader; an infinite being! Only God could pay an infinite price. Only God could expunge such a debt. Only God could absorb an infinite punishment and then say, “It is finished” (John 19:30).

In Jesus Christ we have God in human flesh taking upon Himself the sin of His people and absorbing that sin in full. In Jesus Christ we have a man keeping the Law of God that mankind did not keep and we have man dying the death that mankind deserved. Yet at the same time we have the infinite God in the person of the Son paying the infinite debt that we owe to God the Father! Who but God could come up with such a wonderful and gracious plan?

Without violating justice at all, He has dealt out the perfect punishment for our sin. But in an act of incomprehensible love he has taken that punishment upon himself for all those who will humble themselves, surrender to Him and trust Him entirely to deliver them from the wrath that they deserve.

Reader, if the Jesus you know and worship is not the second person of the Trinity; God the Son, fully God and yet fully man, then you do not worship the Jesus of the Bible. And if the Jesus that you call “Savior” is not God in human flesh, then your “Savior” cannot save you from the infinite guilt of your sins! If your Jesus is not God, then you must die in your sins and you must wear out eternity suffering the righteous judgment of God for the myriad of sins that you have committed against Him.

But why do such a horrible thing? Why not turn from your sins and flee to the real Savior? Why not flee to the Savior who is willing to save those who have foolishly rebelled against Him? Why not flee to the Savior who is kind enough to save those who have hated Him for no reason? Why not flee to the Savior who is powerful enough to pay for sin in full? Why be estranged from such a Savior when He so graciously invites you to come to Him?

That Jesus alone can give you rest from the burden of your sins!

“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Matthew 11:28-30

“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners…”
1 Timothy 1:15

“Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.”
Hebrews 7:25


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I don't mean to be answering my own question but i really found some good answers, here is another site.

http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/islam/why-it-necessary-god-die-our-sins


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Joseph also said he would not sleep with Potiphar's wife for it would be committing sin unto God.

Gen. 39:9 There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?


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