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Discussion Forum : General Topics : Physical fighting as a sport (ufc, mma etc) should christian be watching this stuff

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Areadymind
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To say that UFC is edifying would be the same as saying that fornication is edifying. Everyone already quoted a good smattering of verses that I can only put my thumbs up to. Especially KingJimmy's quote.

I used to like UFC when I was in a backsliden state in my heart, and I recently took it as confirmation of the Spirits work in my life when I heard a Pastor a few months ago talking about how he loved watching UFC and my heart sunk with grief and agony, and I had not even formulated some thought or even considered UFC since the last time I watched it, it just simply was the response of my spirit to what seemed so wrong. I had a hard time with hearing this from a pulpit.


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Jeremiah Dusenberry

 2010/1/4 20:17Profile
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It is interesting. I was visiting an unsaved friend and their family not too long ago. As I walked in they had the TV on and they were watching UFC. Having never watched it before, as I lingered in the living room with my friend and their family, I must say, I was absolutely grieved in doing so. It amazes me how DEATH is written on everything that is of this world. Yet, my friend and their family found such excitement in this "sport." And these people are educated and refined! They are upper class and have good jobs! Yet they shouted with joy as another man jumped on another and pounded him in the face with his fists! DEATH!

It is amazing what the world will fill itself up on when it cannot fill itself up on God.


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Jimmy H

 2010/1/4 20:50Profile
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Yah i have to agree with the brother about the pastor saying he enjoyed ufc, if i ever here a christian say they enjoyed this t.v show or this ungodly movie or video game it makes my heart sink too. When the Lord first came in my life 6 years ago i remember no longer caring about anything that had nothing to do with the Lord it bored me, i would flip through the television and i had no desire for it anymore not even sports. What i think that was showing is somebody who was empowered in the spirit compared to someone who desires the things of the world as someone who is walking in the flesh. I do not think if we were strong in the spirit that we would desire anything on t.v unless it had something to do with the Lord, you would watch politics and just see the utter confusion and uselessness of it all, the answer to the whole worlds problems is Jesus Christ nothing else or more.


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John Beechy

 2010/1/4 21:24Profile
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It is beyond my scope of comprehension how another human being will find it a source of pleasure to see another person being beat up! Even if it is faked or for sport.

ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2010/1/4 21:24Profile
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I'm glad were pretty much all on the same page or (book) on this one. Thanks for the replies.


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Marc Collette

 2010/1/4 22:54Profile
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 Re: Should Christians watch fighting?

Considering the different perspective Jesus gave on flesh and blood adultery compared to lusting after a woman, I wonder how some congregational meetings would look to Him.

Just a thought I had as I had posted a view from a balcony on the thread Fight of the Decade. That story wasn't quite what you were focusing on so I didn't put it here. Just an interesting coincidence.

 2010/1/4 23:33Profile









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It's one thing if somebody is playing a sport that is a little physical and involves some rough contact. It's quite another thing to participate in a sport that's only purpose is to beat another person up.



Amen... I agree. Well stated.

In football every measure is taken to ensure that the players are well protected. It is not considered good sportsmanship to purposely injure another player. Football is about toughness, but it is about strategy. Players are penalized (and fined in professional football) for "unnecessary roughness".

In boxing and other sports that have spun off of boxing... it's about beating your opponent into the ground. There has never been anything appealing to me about that. Never been a fan of boxing... even more so the junk that we have now!

Real wrestling is different (not pro-wrestling, thats just silliness) because that is not about injuring your opponent, it's about overpowering your opponent. Jacob wrestled with the Angel of the Lord.

Rough sports? Sure. Sports that are about beating someone to a pulp... no!

Krispy

 2010/1/5 11:11
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The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked, and his soul hates him that loves violence. (Psalm 11:5)




This verse that Jimmy posted is one that stood out to me also a while back. I had been making cards to distribute with only passages from the Bible on them, and some art work. This was one passage that I had felt to print(Psalm 11:4-7)


I was handing them out to people and asking them about some of the movies that were being advertised at the time.



It seems to me that one of the last stages of degenerancy for a society is when lust expands to lust for blood.



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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2010/1/6 5:14Profile
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Some time ago, and I forget their name off hand, but a secular poet once said: Violence is the new pornography. Of course, she didn't anticipate the advent of the internet and what it did to revolutionize pornography, but I think she does have a very valid point just the same.


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Jimmy H

 2010/1/6 6:25Profile
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Hi everyone,


After continuing to meditate on these things this morning, I wanted to share some more things with you all. The growing [b]love for violence[/b] in our society is something that I've thought much about.



I remembered this morning the Psalm that says the wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. And then I thought that this word translated hell has the meaning of or is sometimes translated the grave. That is speaks of death.


I thought that if a people reject the wisdom from God for expediency, or whatever else, that the end result is to love death(Proverbs 8:1,36).


I remembered how it is written in the scriptures that the life is in the blood, and I thought that those who lust for blood lust for death; the life is in the blood while it is in the body, but [b]to desire[/b] to shed blood is to desire death.



I remember not long ago I spoke with someone on the street that was soliciting donations for children that were poor. I stopped to talk to him and learned a little about him and how he came to do that.

His motive was not religous, but that he wanted to do good and help others. We parted nicely and not long after I saw him again. We were talking this time about being good and what it means and he noticed someone coming down the street. He recognised him as a celebrity: it was one of these people from this [i]ultimate fighting championship[/i] as this fight was happening in town on that weekened.

After he told me who it was, I asked him if it could be possible for people to be good, and love violence like that? How could that be? How could someone be good and love to watch such a thing?










When I moved here, I took a job in a warehouse at a clothing store. The store sold all of the most popular clothing. I remember being more and more disturbed by the clothing I saw coming in, as so much of it had a recurring theme: it was death, or the symbols of death, skulls, or skeletons, or peirced hearts with skulls and skeletons wearing a crown. It almost seemed ubiqutous.



I'll tell you a somewhat ironic story.

This week I was on the subway, and some women across from me were talking loudly and cursing. A man sitting next to them spoke up and said something to them about it. He told them how he did not curse himself. I listened for a while and they began to talk about how they grew up and different ethnic people they had to fight to get where they were going. As he went on he made a statement that I thought was ironic - he said that his life was pure.

I thought it was ironic, because probably the first thing that I noticed about him when he sat down was the jacket that was wearing. The most noticable thing of the jacket was a large bejewled skull, wearing a crown, with a cigarete hanging out of its mouth.







Of the human creatures that God made, we have all known that, as far as nature is concerned, women are supposed to be more nurturing, more delicate, more caring and gentle.

But do you know that it is becoming common for young girls to fight each other? This weekend on the bus a group of young girls were talking about the fights they were in recently and eveything like that.



And the movies and the entertainment of this culture? It is enough to become sick just to look at an advertisement for some of these movies. It is one word: DEMONIC.


And it is what the people of our society are feeding on every day.





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