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 What qualifies as sin to the born-again Christian?

In light of Romans 14:23...

But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

Also Ephesians 2:8-9...

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

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If whatever does not proceed from faith is sin, as stated in Romans 14:23b, and faith is not of our own doing, but a gift from God... are we constantly in a state of sinfulness before God?


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 Re: What qualifies as sin to the born-again Christian?

Faith seeks what GOD desires, faith does what GOD
requires. Faith is simply trusting GOD and taking
Him at His Word.
Old testament prophets and saints were commended
for their faith and reckoned righteous by their
faith.
Salvation is GOD'S gift and GOD'S work; not
because of any merit of our own. Christ was
made sin {offering} for us, so that we made be
made righteous in HIM.


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How can we discern whether what we desire is from faith, or from our own flesh?

And if we are not COMPLETELY 100% walking faithfully according to the Word of God, are we constantly in a state of sinfulness before God?

Meaning that we cannot approach the throne of God until we confess our faithlessness... ?


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The righteous sacrifice of Christ is the way we
are given access to the throne of grace and the
mercy seat.
We are responsible to walk in the light of the
truth God has revealed to us.
We discern what the will of GOD is by desiring
His will and seeking His will for us and relying
upon HIM to direct and guide our ways!


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 Re: What qualifies as sin to the born-again Christian?

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In light of Romans 14:23...

In the light of this, we need to redefine faith.

 2009/12/29 18:12
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 Re: What qualifies as sin to the born-again Christian?

In Romans 14 Paul is speaking specifically of foods and days, not all things. If you observe a day special unto the Lord, do it in faith. If you don't, do it in faith. If you eat a certain way for the Lord, do it in faith as unto Him. If you eat freely unto Him, do it in faith.

Otherwise you are sinning if your conscience is convicting you in regards to these 2 subjects. So if you are sure of your diet and days dedicated unto the Lord, you are not in faithlessness and thereby not in sin according to this passage. Paul is not applying this statement to all things or overriding any other commands of God by this. For instance, I can't lie/steal/fornicate/etc in faith and not be sinning.


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II. THE DEFINITION OF SIN

1849 Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience; it is failure in genuine love for God and neighbor caused by a perverse attachment to certain goods. It wounds the nature of man and injures human solidarity. It has been defined as "an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law."121

1850 Sin is an offense against God: "Against you, you alone, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight."122 Sin sets itself against God's love for us and turns our hearts away from it. Like the first sin, it is disobedience, a revolt against God through the will to become "like gods,"123 knowing and determining good and evil. Sin is thus "love of oneself even to contempt of God."124 In this proud self- exaltation, sin is diametrically opposed to the obedience of Jesus, which achieves our salvation.125

1851 It is precisely in the Passion, when the mercy of Christ is about to vanquish it, that sin most clearly manifests its violence and its many forms: unbelief, murderous hatred, shunning and mockery by the leaders and the people, Pilate's cowardice and the cruelty of the soldiers, Judas' betrayal - so bitter to Jesus, Peter's denial and the disciples' flight. However, at the very hour of darkness, the hour of the prince of this world,126 the sacrifice of Christ secretly becomes the source from which the forgiveness of our sins will pour forth inexhaustibly.

 2009/12/29 23:45
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What is the difference between observing days, and eating certain foods; and perhaps whether you like flowers in the sanctuary? Or whether we should sing hymns with piano, or without piano... Or whether we ought to have a dress code for worship, or not?

Is there a clear line of differentiation between these?

Or is it acceptable to make these judgments without faith?


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According to this creed, sin is merely an action committed by man... intentionally.

I believe it fails to meet the requirement of Jesus in Matthew 22:34-40.

But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets."

The reason Jesus Christ was the perfect sacrifice, was not merely that He never committed an act of sin, but that He perfectly loved God and submitted to His will.

I believe this is a true statement...nobody has ever loved God as they ought to.

Not merely a lack of passion, but this combines with our lack of knowledge of God, and a lack of passion to increase in the knowledge of God... not merely head knowledge, but relational knowledge, "know" as used in the Hebrew language of the Old Testament.

Is it a sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind?


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What is the difference between observing days, and eating certain foods; and perhaps whether you like flowers in the sanctuary? Or whether we should sing hymns with piano, or without piano... Or whether we ought to have a dress code for worship, or not?

Is there a clear line of differentiation between these?

Or is it acceptable to make these judgments without faith?



If you have a clear conscience, go for it any way you like. These are issues not specifically ruled on in scripture and are therefore to be determined by the Holy Spirit leading your conscience. Whatever you do, do unto the Lord, with joy and love and honor in your heart and you should not be sinning in these areas.

Remember to, His mercies are new every morning (Lam. 3), He gives more grace (Jam. 3), and He is for you (Rom. 8). He's a good Father, pray these things through, I believe He'll show you.


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