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 2009/11/18 2:37
enid
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 Re: prayer for problems of lust


You know, you can't keep airing every problem you have in public.

What is anyone supposed to do about what is going on in your life?

Sure, we can pray, but we can't live the life for you. Either you live for God or you don't, but this yo-yo lifestyle that you have is so destructive to anything God could or would do in your life.

If you had a real fear of God, which right now seems to be absent, then you would not be straying away from God, but getting closer to Him.

Since we much all stand before the judgment seat of Christ, and all that we have done will be rewarded, it should be that we are careful how we walk before God.

I've said enough.

 2009/11/18 4:06Profile
notmyown
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 Re: prayer for problems of lust

I understand your temptation and the battle within (being male!).

Attraction to females is a God-given aspect of our make-up which the devil has corrupted almost completely. You cannot get rid of what God originally has given BUT the corruption was dealt with at the cross. You ARE crucified with Christ. It is NO LONGER YOU that lives but CHRIST that lives in you. When tempted tell the Devil this. That it is Christ in you and that you will not accept his lies. Read Romans 6. You have died! The mind is the battlefield. Read Watchman Nee's book 'The Normal Christian Life'. It's a great help.

As Keith Daniels said about King David' The first look wasnt his fault - but the second was' We will be attracted to female forms (that is, in itself, not sin - but it's what we allow in our minds about that attraction that turns it to sin.

(and yes I still struggle and battle with lust too and far from perfect)

 2009/11/18 4:17Profile









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hey we our suppose to confess our sins our we not before our christian brothers and struggles and thats all i am doing. Hey if you guys don't want me to speak about what i have been experiencing about my main problems then i won't tell you guys at all, i was just explaining it in detail, but anyways i won't do that ever again.Also who gave you the fear of God, i know only God can. But lets not fight, but i will stop telling anything here on sermonindex.

 2009/11/18 14:45
MaryJane
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Greeting Bible4life

Yes we are suppose to confess our sins one to another. I think what enid was trying to say perhaps was that for this kind of thing it would be better for you to meet with a mature brother in Christ near you to confide in. This is a subject that is difficult to go into to much detail in an open forum where sisters in the Lord are also reading. Also in this situation we can pray for you but since we are not there walking with you daily it would be impossible to help keep you accountable. You mention on the other thread a friend who was strong in his walk with the Lord, share these kinds of things with him. Make time to meet with him as often as possible and pray together. Also have you ever read the book the Purity Principle. It is a very good book for dealing with these kinds of situation.

As for your wife you profess to love her, then how could you ever consider hurting her in such a way, even for a moment with these kinds of thoughts. Take these thoughts captive at once to Him, do not give into self, or the enemy.Trust in the Lord and He will be your strength. You say you think about how it would be with a christian girl, what about the woman your married to. She needs your prayers, love, and sharing and covering in the Lord. Have you really spent time fasting, praying, and seeking God on your wife's behalf, not so it would make things better for you but for her sake and because Jesus is deserving of His reward? Remember you are to love her as Christ loves His church. Some of your posts almost sound like you blame your wife for the troubles you feel you are having with the Lord? Is this the case? IF so you need to repent of that right now because you alone are accountable for the choices you have made and do make.

I do not mean to sound harsh with you, but its time to stop being tossed about from one extreme to the other, its time for you to be real with God and yourself. You either love Him and desire to obey and follow Him or you do not? I will continue you to pray for you.

God Bless
maryjane

 2009/11/18 15:23Profile
ginnyrose
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Lust. If the devil can't get you one way, he will work on another.

And do we females not know that males are far more susceptible to this temptation then females?

This issue troubles me greatly, given modern day fashions that are designed to excite lust in the opposite sex.

Many modern females have caved into wearing modern fashions - these fashions designed to excite lusts. Many females get angry when confronted that their attire is unbecoming to modesty. Then you will have those that will use it to attract the looks of males, knowing full well what they are doing. I have witnessed it as have others and it makes us ANGRY!

If a man is arrested here in MS for rape or molestation, the law officers will seize their computers to see if they can find porn. Is it not shocking that the civil authorities make that connection but the so-called Christian people are too ho-hum about it? Too many females will go to church dressed in the latest fashions that appear to invite sin, lust for their body. They look very little different from the females in some mags you see on the shelf. This is absolutely shameful.

(I have seen this happen when we had a certain visitor come. I have decided that if she comes again I will need to give her a blanket to cover her shoulders....I know this woman..)

If I recall, the original post on this thread informed us that the girl who came in was the owner's daughter and he was working for a Christian business...if I am wrong, forgive me, but this is absolutely shameful that something like this could happen. If you operate a business and you are Christian, then act like it and make sure your family perform like it as well.

A customer came into our business one day and was she full of it - no she was MAD! This stranger vented about the immodesty many females embrace. She said how she taught her daughter that if she dresses immodestly that will incite lust in a male and he goes down the road and molests another, that when she appears before the great white throne judgement she will be held responsible.

Sisters, ladies - our bodies are our own and beyond that they belong to our spouse. We are people with minds, made in the image of God. Let us use it for that purpose. Lets us eschew the prevailing fashions of the world. If there are questions, ask the LORD, he will teach you if you have an open mind.

God bless you all and we our brother's keeper..

ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2009/11/19 13:02Profile
elanham
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O how I wish all western sisters read your post ginnyrose. I am amazed when I see sisters coming into the gathering of the saints with all kinds of things showing. I am even more amazed when pulpit ministry does not address this as Paul did.

Clothing is definately a stumbling block for many men in the Church. We have indeed stumbled because of the outward dress of the ostensible sisters in Christ and it is our own fault for not fortifying our hearts in righteousness. Yet Jesus gave a terrifying warning for those who would cause their bretheren to stumble. I am glad that a female like yourself spoke to this because when a male does he is castigated and rebuked for being lustful.

Sensuality is so prevalent in body of Christ and it shows. It seems to me that more and more christian women are aiming for a sensual look rather than the shamefacedness that Paul encourages them to. May we as men gaurd our hearts because it will not get better but worse. Yet the Lord has provided the Grace to be successful in this and every area of our lives. Grace, Grace to you.


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Eric Lanham

 2009/11/19 15:56Profile
MaryJane
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Hi Ginnyrose

I agree that we do need to be very mindful of what we are wearing. I have changed many of the styles that I wear so in order to be more modest. I will say that it can be extremely difficult buying clothes any more, most things are either very revealing, clingy. I find that dressing in layers is the best answer for me.

I will say that it is really difficult for my boys especially in the summer time. I have often told my boys that if a woman comes before them inappropriately dressed then it is her sin for being immodest, but if they continue to look and do not turn their eyes away, it becomes their sin.

God Bless
mj

 2009/11/19 16:42Profile
ginnyrose
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I am glad that a female like yourself spoke to this because when a male does he is castigated and rebuked for being lustful.



Brother, even if we females speak out against immodesty, we are still weak, but in a different area. Or, maybe it isn't....?

I see so many females who profess to be Christians who dress so immodestly and then the devil comes along and challenges my convictions: you are too strict! You need to back off and be more tolerant!

Hey, we need males to take the leadership role that has been imposed on them by the LORD and teach the people. So, you will get castigated? Well, I never heard of a modern preacher being crucified yet for speaking out against sin...

Thanks for your kind words, elanham - they encourage me...You know what? after I posted this I felt like it was not a good one and I came mighty near to deleting it? My ideas were too scattered? I posted in response to 'bible' and I felt sorry for the fellow who is struggling....

Blessings,
ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2009/11/19 16:46Profile
growingholly
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i'm a woman and here is my heart on the matter. i hope it is a help.

women are WRONG for dressing the way they do. men are wrong for lusting, but it is the women who are enticing them to do so. the issue is on both sides. but: women need to be admonished for this and they just aren't, for the most part. God says about the ezer (servant in battle) wife, otherwise known as the proverbs 31 woman, that she will do her husband good and not evil all the days of her life. that means even before she marries him, not showing the whole world what is designed first for the glory of the Lord, and second for only that man.
when i try and plead with other women, young and not so young, they think i'm crazy. but it is truth. God designed Christian marriage for His glory, to show the world His love for the church and the church's love for Him. how can we show that when we throw our bodies out there like every other woman in the world? God has a beautiful design for sex and it is sacred and precious and not to be given in the form of showing that man's special secret devoted love to any other man.

also, women are very affectionate in other wrong ways too, so gents, be mindful of this!!!! a woman wants you to think she "understands" you, or wants to make you feel good emotionally. i plead with you, dear ones, beware of this too, and do not take those affections from any woman other than your wife. a woman can dress modestly and still be a stumbling block to you with connecting to you emotionally. she may shower you with affection disguised as friendship but may have feelings for you beyond what she says.

so please, dear brothers, guard your eyes and hearts, and take every thought captive. there is a wolf out there trying to rip you to shreds with all this. and he's bigger than you know. but: he is way smaller than God. :) the victory belongs to the LORD. remember that self-control is a fruit of the Spirit. which means He can give you the power. you can look at an unplugged lamp all day but it won't give light until it is plugged in.

i do hope this blesses. we are ALL accountable, men and women.

 2009/11/21 21:58Profile





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