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 Obama Green - lights Arab Land Grab

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Obama green-lights Arab land grab
But Israel threatens retaliation if U.N. approves Palestinian state

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Posted: November 15, 2009
8:00 pm Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


TEL AVIV – A top Palestinian Authority official told WND that the PA reached an understanding with the Obama administration regarding a Palestinian threat to unilaterally ask the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state outside of negotiations with Israel.

Ahmed Qurei, former PA prime minister and member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization executive committee, said in an interview that the PA "reached an understanding with important elements within the administration" to possibly bring to the U.N. Security Council a resolution to unilaterally create a Palestinian state.

Asked to which "elements" he was referring, Qurei would only say they were from the Obama administration.

A top PA negotiator, speaking on condition of anonymity, named the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Susan Rice, and National Security Council member Samantha Power as among the Obama administration officials who were involved with the Palestinians' U.N. threat.

Despite widespread assumptions the U.S. would veto any such U.N. Security Council resolution, the PA negotiator said that in initial discussions, the Obama administration did not threaten to veto their conceptual unilateral resolution.

"The U.S. told us that they prefer a negotiated settlement with Israel, but if we (Palestinians) insist on a resolution, the Americans will not necessarily reject it," the PA negotiator said.

"The U.S. has a history of never before vetoing any U.N. move to create a new state," the negotiator pointed out.

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said yesterday the Palestinians had decided to turn to the U.N. Security Council to unilaterally declare a Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and eastern Jerusalem.

Separately, the negotiator, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that the Obama administration is "totally on board" with a plan by Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad to create a state on the pre-1967 borders within two years.

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WND first reported in September that according to a top PA official, the Obama administration has largely adopted the positions of the Palestinian West Bank leadership to create a Palestinian state within two years based on the pre-1967 borders, meaning Israel would retreat from most of the West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem.

The PA negotiator WND spoke with yesterday said that his authority's primary goal now is to secure a letter of support from the Obama administration affirming the U.S. commitment to a pre-1967 Palestinian state within two years.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday hit back at the PA plan to unilaterally declare a state, warning such a move will be met by "one-sided Israeli measures." He did not elaborate.

"There is no substitute for negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and any unilateral attempts outside that framework will unravel the existing agreements between us and could entail unilateral steps by Israel," Netanyahu told a high-level gathering of Israeli and American policy makers at the Saban Forum in Jerusalem.

Netanyahu stressed that in order to achieve peace, "negotiations must resume immediately." He affirmed Israel was prepared to begin talks "with a generous spirit."

"I want to stress that we are willing to take steps that will help in advancing the peace process, but it must begin, there is no reason to waste time," said the Israeli leader.

While negotiations were not easy, Netanyahu said, "there is no other way to bring about change."

In September, a senior PA official told WND that aside from supporting a Palestinian state in the pre-1967 borders, the Obama administration also had accepted the PA position that Israeli-Palestinian negotiations begin where they left off under Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who went further than previous Israeli leaders in his concessions to the Palestinians.

Olmert reportedly offered the PA not only 95 percent of the West Bank and peripheral eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods but also other territories never before offered by any Israeli leader, including parts of the Israeli Negev desert bordering Gaza as well as sections of the Jordan Valley.

"We understand from the U.S. that the Netanyahu government is not in a position to go against creating a state within two years," the PA official said.

The official claimed the Obama administration was ready to ultimately consider "sanctions" against Israel if the Netanyahu government rejected negotiations leading to a Palestinian state. The official refused to clarify which sanctions he was referring to or whether he was specifically told by the U.S. government it would consider sanctions.

The PA official claimed Obama can make a "headache" for Netanyahu if the Israeli leader does not conduct negotiations leading within two years to a Palestinian state.


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Mike

 2009/11/16 16:02Profile









 Re:Is America under judgment .

It is unbelievable what the Obama administration has past and is trying to pass. Someone told me that Saul Alanski that wrote the book Rules for Radicals was Obama’s mentor. Then they told me that on the 1st page it said that Lucifer was the first successful radical there for all praise should go to Lucifer. Tell me this is not true please. Does anyone know any thing about this :-(

 2009/11/16 23:42









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Separately, the negotiator, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that the Obama administration is "totally on board" with a plan by Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad to create a state on the pre-1967 borders within two years.

Good! The Palestinians have every right to be in that country as much as the Israeli's. When you read the history as to how that land was obtained it was shameless. There is a misplaced affection from the Christian world towards the so called "Jewish" people. We who are Christians are the true Israel of God having the Seed of Christ. The Palestinians are a people too and they should have the same affection because both Jews and Palestinians are sinners and both need Jesus Christ. And the Jews are NOT God's chosen people. They were, but now God's chosen are a whole mixture of peoples, both Jew and Gentile, more Gentile now then Jew, as prophecy has dictated.

It's difficult to take WND completely serious. You have to do your homework to make sure that what they are spouting is coming from a true source and not hearsay.

 2009/11/17 6:38
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dmoney wrote:
Then they told me that on the 1st page it said that Lucifer was the first successful radical there for all praise should go to Lucifer. Tell me this is not true please. Does anyone know any thing about this ?


I looked and looked and I found this... I do not know if it's 100% correct...

“the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."


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Lisa

 2009/11/17 7:02Profile
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DeepThinker wrote:
Good! The Palestinians have every right to be in that country as much as the Israeli's. When you read the history as to how that land was obtained it was shameless. There is a misplaced affection from the Christian world towards the so called "Jewish" people. We who are Christians are the true Israel of God having the Seed of Christ. The Palestinians are a people too and they should have the same affection because both Jews and Palestinians are sinners and both need Jesus Christ. And the Jews are NOT God's chosen people. They were, but now God's chosen are a whole mixture of peoples, both Jew and Gentile, more Gentile now then Jew, as prophecy has dictated.


My 19 year old son has been telling me this for a couple of months now, purely from a political standpoint and when I read him your post he said, "That's what I've been trying to tell you all along."

I read your words and I hear what my son is saying also AND I know from Scripture that we are "one new man," but I am still going to have pray this one through brother.

God bless you, DT...


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Lisa

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