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anonymity Member
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| What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't? | | What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't? |
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2009/10/8 3:02 | Profile |
sojourner7 Member
Joined: 2007/6/27 Posts: 1573 Omaha, NE
| Re: What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't? | | Salvation is by GOD'S choosing and willing; it is GOD's work. Election is necessary for salvation, justification is essential to salvation. Reconciliation is the fruit of salvation. _________________ Martin G. Smith
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2009/10/8 6:46 | Profile |
hmmhmm Member
Joined: 2006/1/31 Posts: 4994 Sweden
| Re: What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't? | | i would say the doctrines of faith and repentance.
If they believe and repent they will be saved. _________________ CHRISTIAN
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2009/10/8 6:52 | Profile |
Leo_Grace Member
Joined: 2009/6/14 Posts: 703
| Re: What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't? | | Pardon me for asking, but... Is this a serious question? |
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2009/10/8 6:55 | Profile |
anonymity Member
Joined: 2009/1/16 Posts: 392
| Re: | | Hello all,
so so far grace alone and faith alone ect.
Yes, this is a serious question.
So far I agree with you.
I think more so of what I am asking though is a little more broad in scope.
Let's say hypothetically for instance that the Catholic's do not believe in salvation by works but grace. Will they still go to hell because of other false doctrines like that Rome is the only true Church and way to God?
Or lets say hypothetically the JW's don't believe in salvation by works but grace. Can they be saved though they do not believe Jesus was God?
Or what of Oneness teachers who teach salvation by faith and grace. Can they be saved though they do not hold to the view that God has 3 different personalities (trinity)?
Or if the LDS do not believe salvation by works. Can they be saved in that they think they will one day be a god yet still worship God as their God?
If a muslim does not believe salvation by works. Can a Muslim be saved if in their heart they truly seek God like Billy Graham would say and it maybe be accounted to them as those in the OT before the time of Christ if they have not heard?
Where does false teaching become to the point where one will not have salvation? Or maybe some in these cults are ignorant of these doctrines? Or maybe they are unwillingly deceived? Or maybe they have just not thought certain parts through as babes? This is more of what I am asking which and where does it cross the line? |
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2009/10/8 17:41 | Profile |
Logic Member
Joined: 2005/7/17 Posts: 1791
| Re: What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't? | | Quote:
anonymity wrote: What doctrines are essential for salvation and which aren't?
Jesus is God incarnate (Came in the flesh). John 1:14
Born of a Virgin (Isaiah 7:14)
He lived a sinless life (Hebrews 4:15)
He died for the sins of the world on the cross (1John 2:2).
Was dead for three nights & two/three days (He rose on the third day) Matthew 12:40
In verification of Gods' acceptance of Jesus' death for the sins of the world, He rose on the the third day (1 Corinthians 15:4)
Repentence (Acts 2:37b-38, Acts 3:19, Acts 8:22, Acts 17:30)
Jesus ascended to heaven in the flesh (glorified flesh) Acts 1:9
Now sits at the right hand of the Father to make intercession for the saints (Romans 8:34;).
He is coming back for His bride (1 Thes 4:14-17).
Any thing else is non-essential. |
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2009/10/8 18:25 | Profile |
ceedub Member
Joined: 2009/5/1 Posts: 215 Canada
| Re: | | what about 'being saved by grace'?
You didn't list that one. Does it matter? |
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2009/10/8 18:28 | Profile |
roaringlamb Member
Joined: 2003/6/11 Posts: 1519 Santa Cruz California
| Re: | | Quote:
Any thing else is non-essential.
Brother for once we agree! and I rejoice! _________________ patrick heaviside
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2009/10/8 18:29 | Profile |
roaringlamb Member
Joined: 2003/6/11 Posts: 1519 Santa Cruz California
| Re: | | Quote:
You didn't list that one. Does it matter?
To me, if you believe the things that Logic listed it is evidence of God's grace having saved you.
We may disagree on the "world" part, but that isn't essential to salvation. _________________ patrick heaviside
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2009/10/8 18:31 | Profile |
ceedub Member
Joined: 2009/5/1 Posts: 215 Canada
| Re: | | That's true. I was just curious. |
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2009/10/8 18:33 | Profile |