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by agnostic on 2009/8/29 11:27:35 Do you think everyone has the opportunity to accept or reject God, such as people who don't hear about God or grow up in another religion getting to make that choice after death?

I would like to think so, and the Bible appears to say so in Mt 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."

But as to how this will be accomplished, or where, or when, only God knows. Even questions on the status of those who in the past have died without hearing the gospel first can only be answered by God, I'm afraid.

Many are critical of God in this regard because they see this situation as "unfair" or "unclear". My response would be to remind them of who we are relative to who God is is. God owes us nothing --- not salvation, not explanations, not revelations, nothing. Whatever he has given us is undeserved, and given to us only out of love (and he has given us much more than we deserve).

Instead of complaining about our perception of "unfairness", etc. (this also applies to complaints about God's "cruelty", "wrath", "hatred", etc.) It would be better to accept the fact that his ways are beyond our ways and his thoughts beyond our thoughts (Isa 55:9). Rather, we should trust in his love, his holiness, and his justice. Because we know God to be this way, we know that in his infinite wisdom and sovereignty, he will give everyone concerned a fair shake, even if the "how" is beyond our earthly understanding. This is how faith works.

 2009/8/29 14:59Profile

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Man keeps trying to jump into or out of God's hand, but when Jesus Christ comes all will see it is all of God that any are saved.

Romans 9:14-24 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him
(man) that willeth, nor of him (man) that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth He yet find fault? For who hath resisted His will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the Potter (God)power over the clay, (man) of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory (Christ) on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Ephesians 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Galatians 2:16-20 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Paul speaks the Word of God loud and clear;

Colossians 1:25-28 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; (((((which is Christ in you,))))) the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

In Christ: Phillip


 2009/8/29 23:17Profile

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Based on Romans 1 the answer would have to be "yes". There are many testimonies of Jesus having revealed himself to people without experiencing the ministry of a Christian. It seems to me these incidents are multiplying in number in recent years, especially among the Muslim people.

God knows who will respond to the Gospel message and will facilitate that encounter. Again, it is the sovereignty of God at work.

Our God is an awesome God. So what hinders you? Things that do not make sense? Is it only Biblical things that do not make sense? Do you understand everything else in life? I don't and never will but I will not fret..


Sandra Miller

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