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I find this mildly interesting because I personally believe that the Vatican, and the Roman Catholic Church is the "great whore" spoken of in Revelation 17. There are many reasons why I believe this, and the most convincing is that Rev 17 gives the whore's geographical location... which is Rome.

ANYWAY... it is interesting to me that the Pope is now proposing a "new world financial order"... something that most theologians agree will come about in the last days. Now, as you read this you will probably think like I did... his motives sound noble, even godly. I wont question the Pope's motives, I dont know the man. But the main thing about Satan that we often forget is that he is a master deceiver. It would be just like Satan to come cloaked in apparent godliness... a sheep in wolves clothing.

Krispy

[b]Pope Proposes New Financial Order Guided By Ethics[/b]

Published: 7/7/09, 8:25 AM EDT
By NICOLE WINFIELD

VATICAN CITY (AP) - [i]Pope Benedict XVI called Tuesday for a [b]new world financial order[/b] guided by ethics, dignity and the search for the common good in the third encyclical of his pontificate.

In "Charity in Truth," Benedict denounced the profit-at-all-cost mentality of the globalized economy and lamented that greed had brought about the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

"Profit is useful if it serves as a means toward an end," he wrote. "Once profit becomes the exclusive goal, if it is produced by improper means and without the common good as its ultimate end, it risks destroying wealth and creating poverty."

The document, in the works for two years and repeatedly delayed to incorporate the fallout from the crisis, was released one day before leaders of the Group of Eight industrialized nations meet to coordinate efforts to deal with the global meltdown.


The release was clearly designed to give world leaders a strong moral imperative to correct errors of the past, "which wreaked such havoc on the real economy," and make a more socially just and responsible world financial order.

"The economy needs ethics in order to function correctly - not any ethics, but an ethics which is people centered," he wrote.

The German-born Benedict, 82, has spoken out frequently about the impact of the crisis on the poor, particularly in Africa which he visited earlier this year. But the 144-page encyclical, one of the most authoritative documents a pope can issue, marked a new level of church teaching by linking the Vatican's long-standing doctrine on caring for the poor with current events.

While acknowledging that the globalized economy has "lifted billions of people out of misery," Benedict accused the unbridled growth of recent years of causing unprecedented problems as well, citing mass migration flows, environmental degradation and a complete loss of trust in the world market.

He urged wealthier countries to increase development aid to poor countries to help eliminate world hunger, saying peace and security depended on it. He specified that aid should go to agricultural development to improve infrastructure, irrigation systems, transport and sharing of agricultural technology.

At the same time, he demanded that industrialized nations reduce their energy consumption, both to better care for the environment and to let the poorer have access to energy resources.

"One of the greatest challenges facing the economy is to achieve the most efficient use - not abuse - of natural resources, based on a realization that the notion of 'efficiency' is not value-free," he wrote.

He denounced that the drive to outsource work to the cheapest bidder had endangered the rights of workers, and demanded that workers be allowed to organize in unions to protect their rights and guarantee steady, decent employment.

Benedict called for a whole new financial order - "a profoundly new way of understanding business enterprise" - that respects the dignity of workers and looks out for the common good by prioritizing ethics and social responsibility over dividend returns.

"Above all, the intention to do good must not be considered incompatible with the effective capacity to produce goods," he wrote. "Financiers must rediscover the genuinely ethical foundation of their activity so as to not abuse the sophisticated instruments which can serve to betray the interests of savers."

Kirk Hanson, a business ethics professor at Santa Clara University, said the encyclical is likely to spark debate over capitalism and social justice.

"When a group of U.S. Catholic bishops issued a similar statement during the Reagan years, it sparked a nationwide debate about the fairness of our capitalist system," said Hanson, who chaired the hearings leading up to the bishops' statement.

[b]Benedict stressed he wasn't opposed to a globalized economy[/b], saying that if done correctly it has an unprecedented potential to redistribute wealth around the globe. But he warned that if badly directed and if the problems aren't fixed, globalization can increase poverty and inequality and trigger the type of crisis under way.

Benedict has written two previous encyclicals in his four years as pope: "God is Love" in 2006 and "Saved by Hope" in 2007.[/i]

 2009/7/7 8:40
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 Re: Pope Proposes New Financial Order

Even so...come Lord Jesus come...look toward the eastern skies...it won't be long now!!! Get your house in order!

In Christ,
Wendy :-D

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We are watching!


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The timing of this - the day London, England is remembering the bombs which went off in its underground train system - could it be pure co-incidence?

 2009/7/7 12:51
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 reading more about this 'speach'

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_encyclical]Pope proposes new financial. . [/url]

This can be read as, "Pope calls for the Anti-Christ" (My own para-phrasing)

"There is urgent need (for) a true world political authority" that can manage the global economy, guarantee the environment is protected, ensure world peace and bring about food security for the poor, he wrote.

1/6 of the world listens to this man and considers his words to be those of God.

I am speechless.


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 Re: reading more about this 'speach'

It sounds like his motives are noble; however, I heard one preacher say that it's bad enough when the world sets out to do evil, but run for the hills when it sets out to do good.


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Quote:

White_Stone wrote:
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_encyclical]Pope proposes new financial. . [/url]

This can be read as, "Pope calls for the Anti-Christ" (My own para-phrasing)

"There is urgent need (for) a true world political authority" that can manage the global economy, guarantee the environment is protected, ensure world peace and bring about food security for the poor, he wrote.

1/6 of the world listens to this man and considers his words to be those of God.

I am speechless.

I haven't eead the article yet, but, trusting that your comment is a precis or an extract, scripture is called for. At least, I always feel uneasy when I hear Christians getting behind the cause of eradicating world poverty.

2 Cor 8:9; Matt 26:11; Matt 6:25

Gen 1:28, 29; Gen 6:5

Dan 2:37 - [b]a[/b] king of kings;

1 Tim 6: '... the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, [who is] the blessed and only Potentate, [b]the[/b] [u]King of kings[/u], [b]and[/b] [u]Lord of lords[/u]; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Rev 17:14

Gen 1:1; Isa 51:6

James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? 13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what [shall be] on the morrow. For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15 For that ye [ought] to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin.

Matt 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Matt 5:1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed [are] they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.



Phil 4:7

 2009/7/8 4:29





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