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 Re: The Harvest and the great falling away. A warning.

Hi robbyk,

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probably too much information

Not at all. It was both interesting and encouraging. Thank you for taking the time to explain the situation. I feel sure the Spirit gives songs which are very real ministry, when God's people are living in extremity.

 2009/6/25 11:20
robbyk
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Thank you and brother Tom and the others in this post as you have given me much spiritual edification; this morning, as I harvested the flowers from a thickly sown bed of arugula, I saw the "tares" have also grown up, some clover, a little lamb's quarters, and I had joy remembering the wisdoms expounded in this post.

Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


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Robby Kjonaas

 2009/6/25 15:14Profile









 Re: The event that exposed a big bundle of them...TARES gone wild!





RobbyK said:


"Thank you and brother Tom and the others in this post as you have given me much spiritual edification; this morning, as I harvested the flowers from a thickly sown bed of arugula, I saw the "tares" have also grown up, some clover, a little lamb's quarters, and I had joy remembering the wisdoms expounded in this post."

Mat 13:30 "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

RobbyK: your welcome, and it is my privilege. I posted this on july 30, a year ago, about a week before Bentley retired from Lakeland.

July 30, 2008.
Bentley and the withering.
There is such a thing as withering. "Jesus saw that the fig tree had no fruit, and He cursed it. Upon return to those parts, they beheld the fig tree, and it had withered, and they marveled."

[paraphrase].... Lakeland and Bentley have been flourishing, and as much as a splash is concerned, he made a cannonball run, maybe as much as any one man since the venerable Benny Hinn, or even for a brief moment, Billy Graham. He was on every major American news cast....most charismatic leaders have fawned and bowed before him in their glowing accolades and endorsements...and now....it's over.



I believe he became a victim of his own outrageous and pathological lies. His penchant for ever increasing whoppers, and Elijah like encounters, combined with the sorcery like visitations became too much. even his own began to back off a bit. There is right now a revisionist history being written of him...and a vast sanitation of his teachings. They are being edited and revised as we speak.



He has a problem. Of course it is a minor problem, in the beginning, when promises are made. It always is. You just say it.... and it's true! Well, after one hundred and twenty days, and about 30 resurrections from the dead, and possibly 10s of thousands of miraculous healings, there does not seem to be any medical verification on anything! Zero. Nada. Zip. The National media saw to that. [Giraldo, God bless him, saw through him, with hard to conceal chuckles.]


Not withstanding as pathological liars do, is the increase of the fib. Minnows flitter amazingly in the bowl, you are amazed, but Moby Dick emerges and flops into your living room, and he gets your attention. Todd Bentley became his own worst enemy. He could not restrain himself. He had to reach for the Elijah mantle. Conversing with Abraham and the Apostle Paul was not enough. Traveling through time, and God always directing you, audibly was not enough. The great Angel of the Winds of change at his beck and call, protecting and anointing him, was not enough. Tumors exploding out of bodies at his great anointing was not enough. Emma was not enough. Wigglesworth audaciousness was not nearly enough, as he created the gravely ill, and knocked teeth out of the infirmed....with a full mount that would make the WWF swoon....[and that on an old lady!] bam! bam! bam Allah koolia!


But really, there was more to the story than this. It was, and is strong delusion. It was a dividing line, a separate, a harvest, if you will. Many, many of the charismatic leaders of my time, saw something that must have resembled Elijah, in their perceptions. when solid Believers in Jesus saw imps, and demons, our most honored Prophets and Apostles saw light! They lined up to endorse Todd. The great leader of the end time harvest! In a way, they were right...but not in the way they thought. They have been identified, by their embracing of the thing that murders, with the murderer. They have become accomplices, by virtue of association.



Bob Jones, The "Apostolic commission; C. P. Wagner, Dutch sheets, Chuck Pierce, Jim Goll, and all of their crew, [who demand your submission to their perceived authority] Paul Cain, Charisma magazine, the former Lakeland chiefs, All of the Toronto leaders, Randy Clark, Che Ahn, the ambulance of the Assembly of God in Springfield.....on and on. Pastors uncountable, and too many other so called leaders to name. I think of rick Joyner....I am sick to go on. Could someone do a list please, that is a researcher, of the names of the prominent who jumped aboard this ship named Emma?

Soaking prayer, with a pure Hindi doctrine of transcendental guided imagery; the emptying of the mind to translate yourself into the realms of Heaven through focus, and voiding of all conviction to EXPERIENCE....OH TO HAVE A VISION!!! AND OF COURSE , THEY DO!

At this moment, they are trying to convince Scottish believers to open their minds to receiving Angels...and laughter as joy from God. Todd's packing to Europe.


In Luke, the Lord said that the Harvest is the End of the age. He said he would send forth the angels to bundle the wicked.....the tares...for fire. He also said he would separate the righteous , the wheat to take into his storehouse...Heaven. The Harvest is not about the great evangelistic move in the End, alone...it is also about the Evil being divided unto judgment. This, is that.


This has been the most obvious unscriptural carnival of parading imps, possibly in the 20th, and 21st centuries. It is more bizarre than Mormonism was ever elevated to in the annals of the magic show. It is so obvious, that babes in Christ know, much less anyone who has actually read the new testament. It is therefore....strong delusion....sent by God! God sent it! To separate the wheat, and the other. "The harvest is the end of the age! Bentley is sent by God, in this sense.



Only a deep repentance coupled with a Godly sorrow will absolve these leaders who endorsed this Liar and false Prophet. The blood of the Lamb will not be trodden on without some retribution. God is not mocked, and that is all Lakeland and Bentley are really about. I do not wish them Firelake.


It is Harvest Time! The last thing I want to say, is that God has heard the many, many persistent cries to stop this dark parade. God had his timing...to wait until it came to some maturity, and used it to approve those who are and were faithful to Him, through Bentley's perverted dog and monkey show. I believe it is over in Lakeland, though they are trying to rebuke the blanket over them away. It has become dry, and boring....the kiss of death for any magic and animal show. The music is off key, and the shouts of victory are hollow. time to vamoose! Shim dag doomariah!


On a serious note, the wake of sorrow and confusion left behind is what our prayers should be directed too now. There will be many, many young ones thinking God let them down, or depressed when they are not pumped by the special effects, and adrenaline, thinking that God is a deserter. There will be those numbed by it all...and this maybe the most numerous group of all, and possibly the Devil's intent. Let us ask God to take time out and visit each of these, and reveal to them that this was not Jesus at all, but ancient impostors who desire worship due only Him.


Also, the many who were let down by false hope. It really does make the heart sick.




To the many who sought God for an end to this travesty, and to those who stood against , thank you. It turned out to be a united front, more than the Devil bargained for. Thank you who suffered the backlash of Hell for your stand, and thank you for those who understood the times and seasons; the sheer gravity of the innocent being so clearly devoured by the wolf. Thank you seasoned intercessors, and the young one's too. There is a cost, when approaching an army of 10,000, and you seem to be only 300. The battle is not a fairy tail. This has been real, and costly, with many casualties. Let us not put down our swords yet. Keep praying, as you are burdened. Let us be like Samuel in the face of AGAG! Yip! That's the spirit!


to my fellow soldiers....Brothertom
Posted by Thomas Watkins

today,June, 2009
I emphatically do NOT want to turn this thread into a Todd Bentley warning, but simply that it happened. 10 or 20 years ago, it would have been unthinkable, and as you, RobbyK, have reported about Babylonian witchcraft and the spirit of Sodom becoming ascendant in Wisconsin; It's incredible to me...dreamy. Madison is the home of the cheese, and Norwegian athletes, and Apple Pie!..The heartland...but evidently no more.


This is the End of the Age, and it's Harvest time. There is a separation going on, and it's real. 2 camps. The Devil's, and the Lord Jesus'.


















 2009/6/25 17:32
jsisrl
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Have you all ever Read Milton Green's book:

The Great Falling Away Today:
http://home1.gte.net/web23vhn/milton_green-no-frames.htm


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Connie

 2009/6/26 11:41Profile
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Robby K...so good to hear from you. It's all kind of like a dream, isn't it? I cannot believe the naked hatred that I experience, and almost every day I live. I live in a rural area in southern Illinois, near Paducah, Kentucky. The area has several full fledged satanic covens, with most of them drawn to religious mainline churches, where they are members. I think of one of my favorite and more sobering faith promises; "You shall be hated by all!"....MATT:10.. It's really happening!
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Tom, I have experienced this from almost Day 1 from God waking me up and causing me to be Born from above. Sounds like you too.

Keep the Faith and Hold on we shall endure much more than what we are seeing right now - wait until the Apostate Church (the emergent - church grow churches) once they complete their 'dialectic process' the spirit they are of will soon become cruel - murderous.

Blessed are those who die in the Lord from henseforth and they shall rest from their labors and their works do follow.


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Connie

 2009/6/26 14:06Profile









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Pretty well the only noticeable key for discernment today is to recognize "if a preacher is famous, he is false".

I think I know what you are saying, however, there be many famous men and women who are certainly not false. But I think your saying that if men lift up some personality that is probably a sure sign that he is false. If that is what you meant by that, then I certainly would have to agree.

 2009/6/26 16:34









 Re: Persecution from the false church. The inclusionary gospel.

20 years ago this inclusionary Gospel; a gospel that includes new age agendas and political / socialist dovetailing would have been isolated immediately as anti Christ. Because the church as a whole allowed just a tiny bit of it, it grew, and as yeast, obtained control and infiltration over the whole loaf.


JSRSIL SAID;
"Keep the Faith and Hold on we shall endure much more than what we are seeing right now - wait until the Apostate Church (the emergent - church grow churches) once they complete their 'dialectic process' the spirit they are of will soon become cruel - murderous."


It is beginning. Home meetings are under attack by activists enforcing zoning laws, home schooling is either banned, or saddled with heavy weights and standards that make it impossible to do.[ thereby forcing our children to be indoctrinated into a Godless world view ] and the cry of no social deviation from the status quo...[ including every form of sodomy and sexual perversion as normal, and natural..] as
HATE SPEECH, and thereby illegal. It is illegal to CARRY a bible in government institutions, and the Satan worshiping cults , such as the Wikken, have Satan's star over the honored dead at Arlington National Cemetery.

This was accomplished through the changing of laws, and by political activists that challenged her. The church in America backed down, and capitulated; leaving us with the church of the half gospel, and the rest is against Christ; antiChrist. It is the church of every path leading to God, and all faiths sufficient to obtain Heaven. This was the message of Obama to the world as Rick Warren stumbled through his universalist ideas about faith at the inauguration , [supposedly Christian].


What is happening is "intimidation", and it is the heart and soul of it's big brother, terrorism. It is, and has been the strategy of every totalitarian regime that has ever been on Earth, and you better not resist, OR ELSE!



The Church has become leavened, and really but an extension of the larger spirit, political and social institutions, that hate the Lamb of God, and his holy Word, and love rebellion, and their rights to do, and to sin as they well please! ME!,ME!, ME!..I'm at my best when I'm blessed. We are watching the great falling away, day by day, as we speak, and I agree, it's going to get much, much worse as this spirit multiplies it's deception.

 2009/6/28 11:30





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