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What does the Bible say? Do we really have prophets today, speaking for God? Or, does the Bible speak for God, since the last Book of the Bible, Revelation, was written in 96 AD ?

In the last Book of the Bible, in the last chapter, we find the following:

Revelation 22:18
[b]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book[/b]:

[b]This book[/b]. the word “book” here is the Greek biblion (in 22:19 it is biblos). This is where the “Bible” got it’s name. Here John warns, first of all, against adding to the prophecies given in the Book of Revelation. [color=990000]In a broader sense, however, he would warn against adding to the Bible itself, for he was the last of the apostles, and Jesus had in effect told His apostles that He would send the Holy Spirit to bring all things to their remembrance, to guide them into all truth, and to reveal to them things to come (John 14:26; 15:26). Also, the Apostle Paul had written that the church would be “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,” and that the truths of the New Testament would be “revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit” (Ephesians 2:20; 3:5). That “foundation” of divine revelation has been laid in the apostolic era and thus need not be laid again. Furthermore, Paul had said that the gift of prophecy would cease once “that which is perfect [or complete] is come” (1 Cor 13:8, 10). There can be little doubt, therefore, that John’s warning in this vitally important verse at the end of the Bible applies to any new revelation. Both Christ and the apostles repeatedly warned against false prophets, and here is the criteria by which to recognize them.
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Sincerely,

Walter

 2009/5/30 11:56
Logic
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 Re: Who is a Prophet Today?

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waltern wrote:

What does the Bible say? Do we really have prophets today, speaking for God? Or, does the Bible speak for God, since the last Book of the Bible, Revelation, was written in 96 AD?


[b]Rev 19:10b[/b] [color=990000]the testimony of Jesus is the spirit/breath of prophecy.[/color]

If anyone who is frequently used in warning God's people of comming judgement (1Peter 4:17), then he is a prophet; for that is the office of the prophet.

 2009/5/30 13:09Profile









 Re: Do we have Prophets today?

Dear waltern,

This tends to be a touchy subject on SI, especially among the prophets - to the extent that in general, sermonindex does not encourage the posting of 'prophecy' on SI. However, he himself recently posted one sent to himself, anonymously, predicting a war in the US. I've heard this 'prophecy' before from another source, so it remains to be seen what happens next.

These would not be 'adding' to scripture, but they would be the fulfilment of it, in that God gave 'prophets' to the church - Eph 4:11, some of whom prophesied to Paul about his forthcoming trials - Acts 20:23 ... that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me.

There was an interesting thread on SI after the conference in Greenock. Did you read it any - and if so, what did you make of it, and the personal testimonies within the posts? In particular, RobertW testified to having received 'a word of His grace' in one of those churches which allows such ministry, which had a profound effect on him. Acts 14:3; Acts 20:32.

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26547&forum=40]Just who IS responsible for this state of affairs?[/url]

 2009/5/30 14:13









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To Logic:

Yes, there is much written about prophecy, in
Romans 12:6; Cor 12:10; 1 Cor 13:2; 2 Peter 1:19, 20, & 21; 1 Timothy 4:14.

However, all of these books were written before the Book of Revelation. Paul told us in 1 Cor 13:8 that the gift of prophecy would cease once “that which is perfect [or complete] is come” (1 Cor 13:8, 10).


In the last Book of the Bible, in the last chapter, we find the following:

Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

This book. the word “book” here is the Greek biblion (in 22:19 it is biblos). This is where the “Bible” got it’s name. Here John warns, first of all, against adding to the prophecies given in the Book of Revelation. In a broader sense, however, he would warn against adding to the Bible itself, for he was the last of the apostles, and Jesus had in effect told His apostles that He would send the Holy Spirit to bring all things to their remembrance, to guide them into all truth, and to reveal to them things to come (John 14:26; 15:26). Also, the Apostle Paul had written that the church would be “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,” and that the truths of the New Testament would be “revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit” (Ephesians 2:20; 3:5). That “foundation” of divine revelation has been laid in the apostolic era and thus need not be laid again. Furthermore, Paul had said that the gift of prophecy would cease once “that which is perfect [or complete] is come” (1 Cor 13:8, 10). There can be little doubt, therefore, that John’s warning in this vitally important verse at the end of the Bible applies to any new revelation. Both Christ and the apostles repeatedly warned against false prophets, and here is the criteria by which to recognize them.

[color=990000]When I received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I was taught that some of my Charasmatic Brothers had the gift of prophecy. For a long time I believed that. However, over time, none of these “prophecies” uttered by these “prophets” had 100% accuracy. In other words, they are all “False Prophets”, as defined in the Bible itself.

I do believe that today, in these last of the last days, that we see things going on in the body of Christ that have no basis in the Protestant Church of the Reformation. Without the reformation, we would all be practicing Catholics, on our way to hell.[/color]

Sincerely,

Walter

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Logic wrote:
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waltern wrote:

What does the Bible say? Do we really have prophets today, speaking for God? Or, does the Bible speak for God, since the last Book of the Bible, Revelation, was written in 96 AD?


[b]Rev 19:10b[/b] [color=990000]the testimony of Jesus is the spirit/breath of prophecy.[/color]

If anyone who is frequently used in warning God's people of comming judgement (1Peter 4:17), then he is a prophet; for that is the office of the prophet.


 2009/5/30 14:21
Logic
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waltern wrote:

In the last Book of the Bible, in the last chapter, we find the following:

Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

This book. the word “book” here is the Greek biblion (in 22:19 it is biblos). This is where the “Bible” got it’s name. Here John warns, first of all, against adding to the prophecies given in the Book of Revelation. In a broader sense, however, he would warn against adding to the Bible itself, for he was the last of the apostles,

[b]Heb 1:1[/b] [color=990000]In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
[b]:2a[/b] but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son,[/color]
His Son is the Word incarnate.

Prophets today only tell what God has already said (what is in the Bible; the Word).

Their is no "new" prophecy, but shedding light on what has been ignored and is currently relevant.

 2009/5/30 14:43Profile









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To Logic:

Agreed, 100%!


Sincerely,

Walter

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Logic wrote:
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waltern wrote:

In the last Book of the Bible, in the last chapter, we find the following:

Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

This book. the word “book” here is the Greek biblion (in 22:19 it is biblos). This is where the “Bible” got it’s name. Here John warns, first of all, against adding to the prophecies given in the Book of Revelation. In a broader sense, however, he would warn against adding to the Bible itself, for he was the last of the apostles,

[b]Heb 1:1[/b] [color=990000]In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
[b]:2a[/b] but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son,[/color]
His Son is the Word incarnate.

Prophets today only tell what God has already said (what is in the Bible; the Word).

Their is no "new" prophecy, but shedding light on what has been ignored and is currently relevant.

 2009/5/30 16:58





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